Really couldn't be bothered to make it past the first scene where the population of Hicksville whoop and holler while an animal gets punched in the face for their entertainment.
Guess the renaissance was "just something that happened to other people" in some parts of the world...
Movies can be used to showcase not only what is technologically impossible in the real world of today, but also what is moralistically implausible. That's why we have sci-fi movies like Real Steel.
I agree that in our world this would certainly qualify as animal cruelty though.
Do you turn off a movie every time you come across something you don't like to see? Just curious.
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How is it any worse than the bullfighters of Spain? Is punching a bull to death really so much worse than stabbing it with a sword?
And if you want to talk animal cruelty and farm animals, don't get me started on the horrors of factory farming.
How is it any worse than the bullfighters of Spain? Is punching a bull to death really so much worse than stabbing it with a sword?
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shareI thought it was an incredibly poorly conceived scene. How would anything like that even be remotely legal in any of the States? I mean, bull-fighting is bad enough by itself, and rightfully illegal in America. Watching a robot beating on an animal, smacking it in the face with big metallic fists? That's as depraved as dog-fighting. The fact that it was displayed as just some kind of fun-for-the-whole-family Sunday event and not something deeply illicit was extremely disturbing.
shareIf you didn't notice...charlie wasn't exactly the most moral person. He'd do just about anything for some cash. Considering who was involved with the event, i'd bet it was safe to say that the whole thing happened under the table
shareThat's exactly the problem, though: I could understand if it were intended as an illegal event if it were actually portrayed as such. Nothing about its depiction said, "this is wrong, it shouldn't be happening, police are going to come and arrest these guys." Nobody was looking over their shoulder nervously, there were no shifty-looking guys with shotguns hanging about watching for trouble or whatever else you'd expect from an illicit operation.
Instead we got what was basically a lighthearted rodeo show type event where everyone's having a grand old time: there's a convivial mood to the scene, families are laughing and cheering, including the kids. The people are all ordinary-looking and the whole event is loud, transparent and open - clearly not something that's supposed to be illegal. And yet these people are basically watching a form of entertainment akin to dog-fighting.
Imagine if the scene actually did involve a couple of big dogs going at it instead, or even two bulls fighting each other, and yet they still chose a whimsical county fair mood for the whole thing? Wouldn't that be disturbing? Well, having a big mechanical robot whaling on an animal is just as shocking as those things, and yet that's the exact kind of atmosphere they settled on.
Exactly. What a horrendous decision to include this scene.
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How did you all feel about the man and child being beaten up scene?
shareWhat do you think? That scene was obviously meant to be a sad scene. Are you too thick to see that?
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I was asking what you thought. Are you too thick to understand a simple question? Some viewers thought Charlie had it coming; some that the scene wasn't bad or violent at all; some closed their eyes.
shareNo no you were trying to be a little smart ass asking me what I thought of that scene like I'm turning a blind eye to human violence or something, not innocently and randomly asking about that scene. What does that have to do with this thread's topic?
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hmm, you seem like the kind of person that would turn a blind eye to such things.
shareWhy idiot? Because you don't like me? Well, you're wrong.
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hmm, interesting bite reflex. seems like you would even condone such behavior.
And you sound like an idiot who trolls pathetically. Want to continue this pea brain?
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interesting. so you are hospitalized because of you ranger problems? get well soon.
shareAh, so the pea brain wants to continue. I suppose the pea brain is afraid of expressing his true thoughts against something I've said on this thread, knowing I would destroy whatever it is, so he resorts to vague, non-specific insults to annoy me.
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I agree it was disgusting, inhumane, and disturbing. Let's face it, you can say the same thing about 'Reality' TV....
shareNaw you must be mistaken people wouldn't do such a thing that's outrageous!
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True dat'! The whole thing was really just waaayyy out there. Seriously, a robot fighting a bull in a PG 13 film? When I think of some of the things they wont allow in PG 13 films, this scene amazes me. Okay, so let me get this straight... you can't say John McClane's signature line, but you can include animal cruelty... what a wonderful and deeply sane nation America must be when it's youth is so protected from all bad things by the powers that be.
shareI guess nobody really understood the scene. It was meant to show that the redneckness of the people of Texas doesn't change in the near future.
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Wow, you sound like a bigot.
Anyway, once I get past your narrow-mindedness I do agree that the beating up of a bull was a questionable thing to put in this movie.
Civility is just a warm and fuzzy name for censorship.
to be fair that bull was runner up in the badest of the bulls, so is it enough to say the bull got what was coming to him XD. I had no problem with this scene when i stopped to think that the people probably became way more desensitized to violence once robots that looked like people started ripping each other to pieces
sharehaha, defending a bull. Yeah let's just put a bullet in his head and eat him instead
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