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We should have heard the tape in the film


We should have heard the tape in the film
true documentaries present everything

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Everyone who has heard the tape says they've been haunted by it for years. Including it in the film would push the documentary into risky territory. This was a mainstream, marketable documentary. It would be too much for many viewers.

The footage of the director listening to the tape was titillating and intentional for sure. He could have omitted that scene. The recurring mentions of the audio footage make you want to hear it. I think it's supposed to make you imagine the sounds in your head.

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Nobody checked youtube? You can find the audio recordings of the attack there. Or is it a fake anyone?

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Pretty sure the death audio on YouTube is a fake...

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The footage of the director listening to the tape was titillating and intentional for sure. He could have omitted that scene.


I disagree. If he had excluded that footage, people would've attacked him for that, too. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.


Getting back to the original post:

Why did we need to hear the recording? What new information would it have given us? We know they both got killed horrifically (that pilot's testimony made that pretty clear I thought), so why does anyone need to listen to what is basically a "snuff-audio"? I think we need to remember that Herzog didn't make a film about those two persons' deaths. He made a film about a person (Treadwell), his life, his weird behavior and (misguided) views of himself and of the bears. His death was part of it, sure. But the film was about more than just his final moments.

Besides: Just like not showing gore or violence in a horror-film can be much more potent than presenting them in plain view, I thought Herzog listening and reacting to the tape was much more powerful than actually playing the tape for the audience.


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This was a terrible edited "documentary" , words were bleeped, hands "blurred"

Please it was so fake

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No we should not. There are no 'true documentaries'. The different between a documentary and a film is that the former takes a life story rather than a piece of fiction as its subject. If you analyse the boundary between the two you will see there is not much difference between truth and fiction and Timothy Treadwell was as fictitious as he was real.

To have played the tape would have been harrowing beyond belief and deeply disrespectful. It is one thing to tell the truth about a person, it is another to spit on their grave.

In the midst of winter, I found there was, within me, an invincible summer

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I agree. How hypocritical for him to hear the tape and not include it in the documentary. If no one should hear it, then include yourself in that as well. You listened for a reason. What makes you think everyone else doesn't want to listen for a similar reason? And why include gruesome details from the doctor (or coroner) if you're so protective over their last moments? Cop-out. Should have simply included it

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I totally agree. Why only let that one man listen and not let the viewers of the documentary listen too. What makes him so special????

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I agree it would have been really interesting to hear it.

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