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The guns in the barn


They made quite the to-do about the gun stash, but I actually know people with bigger collections than that... without the sea mine. I'm guessing it's a very different standard in the US than the UK.

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well yes it is .
very , very different

I dont know if you've heard, but the majority of countries dont allow their citizens to run around with machine guns .
Its mainly just the USA

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What do you consider a "machine gun"?

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well i know theres a huge array of technical differences and classifications.
I was using the term metaphorically to mean any gun that fiers a lotta bullets fast.

I know a "machine gun" is technically ,er , big and a full auto M16 wont count it'd need to be an M60 or something , even then that'd no doubnt be a "light machine gun"

But for the purposes of what kind of "machine gun" most countries wont let you run around with , i'd say even a semi auto AK47 counts

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Do you understand how difficult it is to get a fully automatic weapon in the US? Most people can't buy one that was made post 1986. They are extremely scarce for that reason, and expensive too. Not to mention the multiple restrictions on carrying and brandishing weapons in the US restrict people from "running around with machine guns" as casually as you imply. Your assessment of people carrying weapons in the United States is flawed at a cartoonish level. It's akin to suggesting that all french people wear beret's and eat nothing but cheese all day.

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I think you're missing the point.

My point , as i went to some pains to explain, is not about actual by the book , US law certified machine guns.

Its about "machine guns" as a similie



If you show people outside america a semi auto AR15 , like you can buy in wallmart , and say "whats that?"
they'll say "machine gun"

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My point is made by what you just said. There are many misconceptions amongst the anti gun crowd based on simple ignorance. That's a huge part of the problem. Also,you can't buy guns at Walmart anymore.

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Are you denying that america has a "right to bear arms" that most if not all other countries dont?

that, is my point

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You said "allow citizens to run around with machine guns", and now you're moving the goalpost. "Right to bear arms" is a very different thing. Your previous statement elevated it beyond reality, which again, is one of the problems with the anti gun movement.

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Have you ever heard of any of these things:
-exaggeration for comic effect
-a simile
-a metaphor
-the phrase "colorful language"
-a "turn of phrase"
-sarcasm

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It's a lazy argument to say "I was being sarcastic" when you challenge my point with multiple replies, and resort to that when you get painted in a corner. Just be mature enough to say you were wrong.

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your "point" was to take literally what was clearly "colorful language" demonstrating a refusal to use/comprehend the English language properly.

it should not take countless posts afterwards to that explain that to you .
See how i used the word "countless" there?

Are you going to reply "well they arn't countless - you responded 4 times"
?

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More sarcasm as a deflection. That only confirms my previous statement about how weak you are at arguing your silly perspective.

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Not deflection . You cannot comprehend english.
You read the words , but you do not comprehend.
Its like when Wesley Snipes says to Woody Harrelson
"You listen , but you dont hear"

I dont know if you are trolling , or you're just one of those people who will flog a debate to death and doesent know when to give up .

Take a step back , and a deep breath.
Now go and read your OP post and my original reply to it
Its very simple.
Think about what we've learned in our discussion about the various "nuances" of the english language.

Perhaps get some friends, or your mom and dad , show them your OP and my reply.
Ask if they understand it.
Maybe some of the good folk of moviechat could weigh in to help you understand english

This discussion is now over , for me anyway.
"If you want me to go on arguing you'll have to pay for another five minutes"

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JUST SHOOT THIS MOUTHY FUCKER.

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nooo the problem is you guys love NRA propaganda more than your kids. you arent part of any well regulated state militia.

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gun give freedom Without our guns we would be nothing more than some communist shit hole country like canada or australia....

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HAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA yes man, those countries are commie shitholes LOL with their better outcomes in almost every single metric, from healthcare to less crime to happiness. also including economic mobility. You know that thing in a capitalist/mixed economy where the poor people and middle class can move up not just be kept down by an unchanging corrupt wealthy class.. thats by definition capitalist superior to the USA's.


you are exhbit A of what its like to live in a country with a failed education system.

I remember all those private businesses, multinational corporations ran by private people, stock market trading and capital gains in the USSR...

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go move there then u fucking libturd and live in that chinaman commy controlled hellhole if it is so great. this country was founded on guns, freedom, and liberty! u can take my gun rights away from me but its gonna have to be from my cold dead hands bud!

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wow my comment went right over your head didnt it!! how stupid can you be that you took that as me supporting china and being a communist?

haha your weak soft beta hands? I agree most diehard gunners are paranoid weak people who have to overcompensate with guns because they lack the physicality and capability to do anything without them.

lol im sure your fellow Americans sleep well knowing a mentally unstable clown like you has guns

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communists starve gunless populations. i would rather die on my feet than live on my knees

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LOOOOLLLLLL Hitler loosened gun laws. you don't know what the fuck you are talking about.

you are on your knees. you are a pathetic low iq conspiracy theorist. you are possibly MCs dumbest poster. you regurgitate far right wing propaganda and think thats make you a deep independent thinker

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shutup u dumbass commie and stay in ur safe space bud!! if u come for my guns u best be ready to meet God!!!

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hahahaim a commie now? yep you are mentally unstable

I also dont need a safe space. im twice the man you are while you are a scared overcompensating boy who needs guns because you out of shape and could do nothing without them

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ur in so good shape u dont need a gun?!?!? that is the dumbest shit i ever heard

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ya ill dumb it down in points for you

1. I workout daily and am physically imposing enough people don't escalate conflict with me. and I used to work at a small town watering hole bar where if anyone was going to cause trouble it was there. one guy tried and got put down quick. but I didnt have to worry about a concealed carry gun because (see #2)

2.my country has strong common sense guns laws like every other democratic nation (besides the USA). illegal guns are fairly uncommon and way way harder to get compared to the flooded US streets. not impossible, only far harder. when something is less prevalent, it has a lesser chance of being used. welcome to logic.

this encompasses the unstable and mentally ill almost completely unable to get any sort of dangerous guns. restricted class firearms are extremely hard to get, even nonrestricted ones are subject to strict rules. not following them loses you the guns. these laws include transportation but also at home storage/.. meaning they re far harder to steal./ meaning less illegal guns for crime. wow amazing how that works!

its why besides one in 2020, the last mass shooting in my country happened in 1996

3. because everyone isn't a gun toting unstable clown like you, I don't need to worry about every road rage incident turning into a shooting.

welcome to logic kid. if I lived in a country where tonnes of people carried open and concealed carry samurai swords, id worry about being stabbed. now apply that to guns. I've never needed one nor know anyone who has either.

many of my conservative gun owning friends look in disgust at people like you. they think American gun owners are an embarrassment and tarnish to gun owners everywhere which is true. looks at your comments. a mentally unstable clown threatening people. my guess is you are 5'4 and suffer little dog syndrome hence the need to overcompensate

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u can workout and do steroid all u want and even my smallest caliber squirl hunting gun will keep me safer from threats than ur physical fitness u retard.... God made people but Guns make people equal. a 90lbs girl or even a disabled person in a wheelchair here in the land of the free has more protection than u. with all ur muscles u are still just a peasant who lives at the whims of ur government in ur shithole country. u are not a citizen of ur country like us free Muricans u are a subject. go run on ur hamster wheel at the gym and feel tough all u want big guy but that wont change the reality of ur subjugation

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LOOOOLLL more unhinged barely coherent ramblings from the unstable clown.

again little dog syndrome to the max. so afraid of everything you are shitting your pants as you write this

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ur the unhinged peasent clown living in a third world prison state bud

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my country has a higher life expectancy than yours, less political corruption, less violence and scores higher in every single human welfare (how good life is) index.

LOLLLLLLLLLL

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my country has freedom u libturd peasant

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LOLLLLL so much freedom you die younger, are more likely to be the victim of crime, likely make less money than the average person in my country, have more corrupt politicians, and worse police officers.

hahah conservitard logic

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shutup peasent this is best country in the world. ur not a free citizen like me with ur gunless society

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lol no one has guns im my country? you retarded?

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u wont even say what country u are from cuz u know its a shithole one

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hahahahahahahahahahahaahahahaha besides Japan I cant think of any other democracies that outright banned guns (although the UK is extremely strict)

again you must be retarded. mix that with mental illness and drug abuse and you are a ticking time bomb. I am sure you are on the FBI watchlist

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shithole country bud....

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shithole country with better living standards in every metric, less corruption and better outcomes.

ya I hate living my objectively better life than you haha

when was your last mass shooting again?

gotta love th freedom to have your kids mowed down almost monthly

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u wont say ur country cuz it shithole

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LOLL whatever helps you get to sleep after screaming to yourself all night and constantly looking out your window to see if the "government is watching me"

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shithole from shithole country still wont admit which one it is cuz he knows it a total shithole one

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whatever helps your unstable paranoid rants. how many meds are you supposed to be on?

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why do u assume everyone is on meds? cuz everyone in ur shithole country is on em?

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its mostly you. I may disagree with some and I may think they are fringe right wingers. but you are actually mentally unstable and id bet the most likely person on here to be on strong medication

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libturds take meds

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yeah imagine if they had scissors and butter knives instead stashed in the barn....

OI MATE YOU GONNA BIN THAT NOIFE???

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