Sara Ramirez
Has come out has bi-sexual. Good for her for expressing her feelings
shareNo such thing as bisexual.
shareYes there is such thing as bisexual
shareNo, there isn't. I's a made up lifestyle choice.
You have a made up lifestyle choice??
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I'm sorry but how exactly did Caitlyn Jenner make it up to avoid criminal charges? If she was at fault for the accident she would have been charged regardless of which gender she identifies with. Just like Richard Sharpe and Chelsea Manning did.
As for Sara I don't think anyone had ever flat out asked her. She used it in that speech to give young kids and adults some hope. I honestly think it's a great thing and if she helps just one kid survive the tumultuous years while struggling with their identity than she did more than you or I have ever done.
"I am who I am, no excuses."
You're clueless person
The reason Sara Ramirez kept quite is because of people like you who Bigot against the gay community
Goodness! Cardnal...
People's private lives, especially when they're in the public eye, are their own. Maybe she's been "out" as Bi for years to family and friends, maybe even certain colleagues, but has chosen now to come out publicly. It's her right and her choice. She could have even taken this to the grave. It's not like she signed a contract that she had to "come out" as soon as she was accepted to Julliard or when she won the Tony Award or became a series regular on Grey's.
Caitlyn Jenner has sated that she struggled for most of her life with her gender and finally it was the right time and the right place to do so and start living her truth as the woman that she was supposed to be. When she was growing up she probably didn't even know what she was thinking and feeling, that there was a name for it, that she could change... She probably had to wait for the right time to make the transition from Bruce to Caitlyn. Her transitioning has and had NOTHING to do with the accident that she was involved in... she was all ready in the process of transitioning when the accident occurred.
Oh yah- Caitlyn Jenner has expressed this confusion from early on, which is why- as Bruce- she did so many sporting events. She has said that she did so to appear hyper-masculine as a way to try to mask the transgender side! Only later in life did she finally come to terms with everything and make the change. Research, really really helps.....
(ps- this wasn't meant for you, hannahwig... I just somehow went under your post.)
"This organism and derivative genetic material is restricted intellectual property."
Well said, Cosima324! Well said! Many people in the Trans Community try to be what they think that their birth gender is and sometimes do hyper masculine or hyper famine activities thinking that will help them be and feel what they're "supposed to be"...
shareSara has chosen to come out publicly and to tell her truth. Good for her that she felt comfortable and safe enough to do so, especially to help the youth who go through so much because they decide to do so.
Sadly many times at great risk of being kicked out of their homes, of being placed into "therapies" and "camps" to "cure" them. Think of all of the issues that kids in the LGBTQAI communities face (especially if they're Latino/Latina, Immigrant, African American, from more conservative religions and cultures) and those issues are not because they're LGBTQA, theyโre because of the negative and hurtful comments that they read on the internet (including places like this) and hear on a daily basis. Imagine what those things do to them emotionally and psychologically.
Look at the statistics of the LGBTQAI communities, especially the youth. 40% of homeless youth identify as being LGBTQ. The higher risks of depression, the anxiety, eating disorders, drug and alcohol abuse, self harm, suicide attempts, and suicide.
People are born Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgendered, Asexual., and Intersex These sexualities, sexual identities, and expressions are not a choice, and they most certainly not made up. Some know when they're little, some know when they're older, and some donโt know what it is that they're thinking and feeling until they have a name for it, and once they get a name for it, some might not know what to do with that name and what that exactly means, be too afraid to admit, to embrace it, to come out because of their family, their friends, their communities... because they're afraid of what might happen to them. Some might be sent to "therapy" to change them, some might be kicked out of their homes and rejected by their family, their friends, and their communities.
To say that LGBTQAI are made up, that they're choices, are wrong. These things are very real and they need support form the non LGBTQAI community. They don't need judgment. They don't need to be told that they just want to โeat fish on the sideโ, dress up or that they cheat on their spouses or that they chose to be.
Sara is now living her truth. To say something like, โThat sheโs doing it now to keep herself relevant because sheโs not on Greyโs anymore to keep herself relevantโ or โSheโs married to a guy, so Iโm not buying itโ or โbecause sheโs married to a guy it doesnโt matter if sheโs into chicks or notโ.
Maybe this is new for her. Maybe she's known for years, maybe not. Maybe her family, husband, friends, and maybe some cast mates knew, maybe she didn't come out publicly sooner because she felt that might have been too close to her character (a part of Callie that she suggested to Shondra and Betsy), and didn't think that it was appropriate to come out while she was on the show.
It is not our place to judge or speculate or make comments like โhow convenient that she comes out that sheโs no longer on the showโ. Maybe her suggesting Callie be Bi was part of her journey, maybe it was the first step of her journey. Maybe she kept this to herself for years. Maybe she felt this was the right time to do so.
Sexuality, Gender identity, and expression is a journey, a process, and like for everyone else, it's hers to take. Maybe it took her until now to feel comfortable enough, safe enough, and she thought that where and when she came out would be the perfect time to do so. (If you saw the video, look at the smile that she gave when she mentioned โQueerโ and โBisexualโ, she looked so happy and so free. It must have been so liberating and freeing for her.)
We should not judge her and say things like: "It doesn't exist", "It's a choice", โbecause sheโs married, I donโt by itโ, and assume that this means that she doesnโt love her husband or cheats on him or that he allows her to do so. Just because she's out as Queer and Bi, and married to a man, that does not mean that she is a cheater or that he allows her to do so. There is more to sexual identity and expression than just the physical act, there's the emotional part as well. Maybe she and her husband are working on this together in private... maybe they have an open marriage, but again what she does in her private life and how she lives her private life, especially with her husband, is not our business.
Here are some definitions for you, in case you don't know or are confused:
From Wikipedia, Queer is defined as: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queer
From Wikipedia, Bisexuality is defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality
From Wikipedia, Transgendered is defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender
From Wikipedia, homosexuality is defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality
From Wikipedia, Lesbian is defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lesbian
From Wikipedia, Asexual is defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asexuality
From Wikipedia, Intersex is defined as:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intersex
And for those of you who havenโt seen the video from True Colors Fund, 40 to None Summit:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPzogvmQLDw
I applaud Sara for her bravery to come out and so she can live her truth and live her authentic life as she defines it. This is her life and it is hers alone to live. We might hear more about her journey, but maybe not. That's up to her. Who knows how many lives, whether they're straight or part of the LGBTQA communities, that she'll touch, help, and save, especially with the organization that she is working with.
Well said Hannah
shareVery well said.
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Cardinal42, and Bibblebabblebobit>>>
What "lifestyle" are you talking about? Being LGBTQAI? Um... There have been people who are GLBTQA as long as there have been humans... For those of those here on the board who disagree. what do you think is made up? Is it Bi that you have issue with or Trans or Gay or Lesbian?
IF you don't trust wikipedia, maybe go Google sites that have to do with psychology or go to your Local Library and ask for as DSM and look up:
Lesbian
Gay
BI sexuality
Transgender
Queer/Questioning
Asexual
Intersex (I head this term today and I asked and I was informed about I for Intersex)
or if there's a drop in center for homeless youth or a center for people that helps members of the LGBTQAI community, go talk with them because you have questions. I'm sure that if you go in with an open mind and ask nicely, they'll be more than happy to help you.
Lesbian
Gay
BI sexuality
Transgender
Queer
Asexual
You're so right, Silver_Bullets, "Q" stands for both Queer and for Questioning and I also learned that there's I for the Interesex community.
So it would be
Lesbian
Gay
Bisexual
Transgendered
Queer/Questioning
Asexual
Intersexed
Yes gay lifestyle ,transgender lifestyle and bisexual lifestyle exist way before we have the Wikipedia
shareI have to disagree.
But not disagreeing about gay, transgendered, and bisexual people having always existed.
I disagree that having relationships with persons to whom one is attracted, or living as the perception one has about their own gender, is a "lifestyle".
^This! I am beginning to hate the word lifestyle. Living in a cave is a lifestyle, wearing designer clothing is a lifestyle, being who you were born to be is not a lifestyle, it is a life.
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Excellent point... living lavishly with a Porsche in a mansion with a butler is a lifestyle. Being born female or male is not a lifestyle, being born Hispanic, Native American, Italian, African America is not a lifestyle and neither is being born gay. Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous would never run episodes and hi-lite how "gay" someone is.
"Hi, I'm Robin Leech, and this is Lifestyles of the Gay. Look at how gay this chap is.... He's so gay, I can see it on the lines of his face." Nope.
Here come the opposition who don't believe that anyone is born gay. I remember following girls around the play yard in kindergarten because I thought they were cute. I remember liking the older daughter of my parent's friends in 2nd grade because she was cute. I remember liking movies in grade school (hello Some Kind of Wonderful) because there was a cute female actor or two in it- but I never fully understood what that meant! I didn't know what "gay" was when I was in grade school. So yah, not a choice- because I didn't even know it existed, and not a lifestyle.
"This organism and derivative genetic material is restricted intellectual property."
Yep, it took me a long time to figure out why I really liked Jo from the Facts of Life and I was 16, when the show first aired. (Gives away age). I saw an episode today & I see it in a whole new light. It's not subtle at all.
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Aw Jo. You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and then you have... the facts of life.
"This organism and derivative genetic material is restricted intellectual property."
Excellent point!
I'm straight, but have always been confused whey I hear "The Gay Lifestyle". What does that actually mean? I'm just seeing posts from some people that they think that it's made up, but they're not saying what what they think the "lifestyle" is or if it's just for the whole of the LGBTQAI or only "The Gay Lifestyle" or only the "Bisexual Lifestyle".... Hmmm. I'm just confused over the "Lifestyle" part.
Every's "Lifestyle" is different, whether or not you're part of the LGBTAI Community or not. Some live modestly, some live extravagantly. Some travel, some stay home. Some collect art, some collect DVDs. Some have families, some are single. Some watch TV, some only read. Some cook dinner, some order out. Some go out several times a week, some are just homebodies. Some have pets, some don't. Some live in The City and have a house for the weekend, some live in the suburbs, some live in rural areas. Some have lots of friends and parties, some have a few and maybe get together once or twice a year. Again, how does one define "lifestyle", LGBTQAI or not.
Exactly!!!! What you're describing is just life. It's not dependent upon sexuality. :-)
"This organism and derivative genetic material is restricted intellectual property."
Personally I think being gay and being bi-sexual are very different things. Even though there is one supposed community of LGBTQI, there is still a fair bit of division between them.
I know quite a few married women that are bi-sexual, but they don't have to live the lifestyle. If they walk down the street holding hands with their husband, who is going to even know one of them was bi? If a woman holds hands with her girlfriend and walks down the street holding hands people will automatically assume they're lesbians. How many bi-sexual women actually end up with a woman? Honestly, I wish I was bi because then it would be a hell of a lot easier to just fall in love with a man and get married and have kids. As it is same sex marriage is illegal where I live and it's a hell of a lot harder to have children.
I don't have a problem with Sara Ramirez coming out as bi, I just think is it really something that will have any impact on her life?
Are YOU an English speaker?
I'm not sure who you're asking who is an English speaker, Bibblebabblebobibble, but I am indeed an English Speaker. I was born here and raised here as were my parents and their parents... Why do you ask?
Bisexuality is not made up and you are born Bi, just like you're born Gay or Lesbian Transgendered, Asexual, and Intersected.
No, there is no being born bi or transsexual or asexual or anything else. These are all societal choices and has nothing to do with biology.
I mean, seriously? :)
Societal choices? So, society makes someone bi, asexual or transsexual? LMAO!! You're an idiot and making yourself look foolish.
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It's like saying someone is not born schizophrenic, while it has been proven to run in families. So yes they are born with it. But they have a choice to take their meds and take care of themselves. Being gay/bi you are born with it, it is your choice to marry someone of your gender or opposite, but that does not change who you are. Not every killer is born one and society can take a role-so those are choices different from biology, but there have been cases where psychopaths are born that way starting off from as early as 2 or 3 yrs old.
On the other hand, people are not born as bigots. That is how they were raised, the company they keep. And when people label someone who is attracted to the same sex as damaged, a choice or a danger to society, (where they are not hurting anyone) those are the ones who have a choice, a choice to be accepting or a choice to be a bigot.
Exactly, Sarah!
It's like saying that someone isn't born left handed or with green eyes. They aren't choices and neither is LGBTQAI. For people who were taught that being LGBTQAI, is a choice, a lifestyle, you were probably taught that by people around you, so you didn't have a choice, but you were not born with those thoughts and ideas in your head, were as people who are GBTQAI are born... sometimes they have always known and sometimes they don't know or realize or that even that there's a name for what they're thinking and feeling, until they're older, but they were still born being LGBTQAI. It's not like they woke up one day and decided that they were going to be LGBTQAI.
You were taught, and maybe you've never had a friend who is LGBTQAI, but you can unlearn what you have been taught as as well and you can go and talk to, ask questions, and then listen to experts and people who are LGBTQAI. Maybe you'll get some insight, some understanding of what it's like to be LGBTQAI rather than just repeating that "no one is born", that "it's a choice" or "it's made up", or "it's a lifestyle"....
That's crazy...bisexuality is a complete choice.
Anyone who thinks that bisexuality or transexuality is some sort of biological/physiological imperative...
Well, wow... I weep for your silly and embarrassing generation.
Soooooo...bisexuality/homosexuality/transexuality are like...schizophrenia?
Mental illnesses...NICE!
And thank you.
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