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Billy’s and Colin’s respective reactions to Madelyn’s childhood photo


What I liked about it was that it shows that Billy is interested in her child self - a view of who she is - where she comes from and Colin wasn't. He takes it out of the box and hangs it up. Whereas Colin says: “You don't see any pictures of where I came from. Look, I respect who you are. Just, you know, not in the living room. We might have company.”

That is a very shallow and conceited response to her putting up something as innocent as a childhood photo of what may have been a very happy memory. It shows Colin isn’t confident enough to put up his own childhood memories for her to see…because he was tainted from childhood by associating with Costello.

It also shows Colin’s view on relationships…it’s all for show. He needs to look the part…the expensive apartment, the successful psychiatrist girlfriend etc. It was all created to cater to his goal…which we see at the beginning of the movie when he’s staring at the State House. Climbing the social ladder…Madolyn was just another rung for him. The fact that he couldn’t perform in the bedroom only adds to Colin’s fake persona vis a vis Madolyn.

Billy on the other hand saw her as a person to share intimacy with, his relationship with Madolyn wasn’t shallow…but wholesome. And that’s why he was successful where Colin could never be with Madolyn…having a son with her. Even in death Billy defeats Colin…because his feelings for her were genuine. Whereas Colins’ weren’t.

Their respective reactions to Madolyn’s childhood photo proved that. Love is in the little everyday things.

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Interesting interpretation, with good insight.

In Colin's defense, it IS slightly odd for a grown woman to have a childhood picture of herself in the living room.

I interpreted Madolyn's wanting to frame it IN THE LIVING ROOM as a subliminal reminder to Colin that she is childless and wants to start a family (where pictures of kids are usually found). Colin's objection to the picture let's her know that either:
1. He does not want to start a family
2. Is impotent
3. He is actually gay and using the relationship as cover.


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I got the feeling Madelyn was an only child and she treasured her childhood memories because as an only child she was the central focus of them.

You’re right that she might have been subconsciously trying to get Colin to accept having kids in the future. But I simply saw it as a relatively sheltered girl who loved treasuring her childhood memories…memories from a time when maybe she felt more secure and happy.

Colin’s rejection could mean all those things you listed. It is established that he is indeed impotent. The gay angle has been discussed before…given Colin’s overcompensating during the football game against the firemen…calling then queers and homos. It’s possible, but not conclusive.

He might not want to start a family given the immense pressure he’s under and that it could create a bad situation for any future child. Colin had enough decency to understand that he was essentially playing with fire and couldn’t get out of the double agent predicament he had gotten himself into. So exposing a child to the possibility of his/her father being outed as public enemy number one or killed for it…would have been cruel on the kid(s).

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Great analysis of the mirroring scenes and I agree, it was very well done as well as creatively, illuminating the inner workings of both Sullivan and Costigan.

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Sullivan was immensely insecure…and Costigan was the exact opposite. Costello even began liking Costigan more. He would have killed Costigan if he found out he was a cop…but that would have been for self preservation. If Costello had to choose…he would have chosen Costigan. He didn’t respect Sullivan. He treated Billy like his own boy after beginning to trust him. To the point where Billy could mouth off to French and say “I’m not staying…you can tell him I said that.” Whereas Colin had to grovel and ask for forgiveness when Costello began yelling at him over the phone; “give you?” Give you?” And then Colin had to take a subdued tone and apologize. Costello didn’t respect that kind of groveling behavior. Billy on the other hand threatened Costello to his face if he kept accusing him of being a rat. Costello appreciated and respected such a ballsy move.

Costello made Billy more of a surrogate son than Colin could ever be. Despite the fact that Colin had spent over a decade under Costello’s tutelage and Billy had only been in with Costello for a year. It’s a testament to Billy Costigan’s superior qualities over Colin Sullivan…everyone liked him better. Costello, Queenan, Dignam, Colin’s own girlfriend Madolyn. Billy Costigan was the man Colin Sullivan wished he could be.

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Well said.
Here’s a question for you, what do you think was in the box that Costello gave Sullivan as a graduation gift? Whatever it was, it made Sullivan smirk nervously before showing appreciation. I know this sounds extreme but I think it was someone’s testicles along with a large sum of money, whatever it was, I believe it was something representative of a duality.
I need to make this a thread if it isn’t one already.

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