This film is preachy anti-drug garbage.
Were we supposed to be honestly scared of these little red pills?
It was reminded me of watching a *beep* "Uh Drugs are Bad M-kay" Captain Planet "Mind Pollution" episode: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0893716/
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Interesting. I found what you term, "anti-drug propaganda," the list of names of people he knew who were permanently damaged (including himself) or died from drugs, all friends of his, one of the most moving parts of A Scanner Darkly. It gave the novel and its anti-drug message so much more impact.
AH, the OP is clearly unaware of the facts about this film, its source and where it is coming from.
Apparently, having a point is "preachy" and wrong when it doesn't line up with the OP's own.
Then why have an opinion OP, if you are too fragile to?
Apparently, having a point is "fragile" and wrong when it doesn't line up with this poster's own.
Then why have an opinion poster, if you are too fragile to?
Nope that's entirely wrong buddy. Did you read the post I wrote? It seems not. And you attempt at a clever reversal just didn't work. You even used the word "fragile" other than I had intended it. Main question: have you read the book, A Scanner Darkly, and did you understand it?
Neither the film or book were "preachy" in the slightest, and that's a fact. My point was that the OP came out guns blaring on a stupid point. The idea today that having an opinion or point on something is "preachy" or "propaganda" or "liberal commie garbage" and all the other whinges you see here, is ironic in that those same people allow no such criticism for their own opinion. Now THAT'S being preachy!
why do you say i allow no such criticism?
shareBecause the first thing you did was start from an extreme position. Nobody rational does that. Where can you from such a position? It's not inductive to discussion or debate because it drives others to the other extreme in order to match you. Then no minds are able to meet. Say you'd said that you'd just watched the film and you wondered if other's throught it was being preachy, and asked what they believed to be the film's intent. Then you'd get some proper discussion and might learn something. Instead, the thread starts with "Preachy anti-drug garbage" and gets worse from there. Again, where can you go from that? Nowhere.
sharei think i see your point, but i disagree.
OP saved time by being frank, and was succinct enough for people to be able to easily write it off as being "just your opinion, man" without necessarily causing offence (unless the responder is predisposed to taking offence at the frank opinions of others).
When i started this thread it certainly wasn't to stifle debate or discourage criticism. I expected others who disagreed to be just as frank as they have inevitably been, and i have learned much - just as planned.
God I hate f--king druggies. The most pretentious people on the planet, especially preachy pot heads.
Get over yourselves. You're not doing the world any favors by doing drugs. If you wanna have your fun, whatever, your choice, but you're doing it solely for selfish reasons. People want to feel good and there are many different interpretations of that. And I can't think of a single drug that's "good" for you. Pot negatively affects your brain but if you stop using it or use it sparingly it gives no permanent damage. DMT is a natural chemical our brains make and it is not addictive. Other than that, most drugs have very negative effects and cost a lot of money and do you no favors. Some ruin lives, this isn't some liberal propaganda, it's just the truth. Why is that idea so threatening? Hell I'd think you'd be like, hey live life dangerously man.
Jesus... I swear to God, druggies are some of the most pretentious people out there. Call a spade a spade. You do it to appease your selfish desires to feel a certain way that you desire. And in the end, people will do as they do. People who want to take drugs will take them and people who don't won't. And until drugs become legalized, if you do anything besides pot feel good about yourself because you're most likely supporting the Mexican Cartel and other fine organizations with your money.
You aren't helping anyone. Get over yourself. If you don't like that some people think drugs have negative consequences, so what? Why let that effect you if you wanna do it anyways? Pussy.
u mad?
shareNot as angry as somebody who goes out of their way to post on an online board that a film based on a story from a known drug user and that is rather thematically complex is just "preach anti-drug garbage."
Jesus H way to just completely dismiss something.
When i mentally removed all of the baseless insults from your original post, i couldn't find anything relevant left over.
Can you name some specific points you want me to respond to?
I don't think this movie (or the book, rather) was intended to preach against drugs. I understand that there are a large portion of drug users who feel the need to annoyingly point out that any piece of literature that involves drugs and a resulting negativity is essentially anti-drug propoganda, but these types are just another side of the same coin. You people are just as ignorant as the staunch anti drug campaigners. Like them, you bask in your own opinions and interpret anything as supporting them.
Philip Dick was a very creative fictional writer, and writers use inspiration from their lives for the writing. I think that what he captured in this movie better than anything else is the kind of paranoia, bad trips and other wierd social mind play that can and do happen among recreational den dwellers. I don't think substance D was meant to represent drug use in general, either. Despire being a simple plot device, its clear to me that Dick was interested in sociology and societies, and the idea of a super addictive drug that has taken over society makes for an interesting story. That's all it is, creativity, and if all you can take away from creative art is a bunch of jaded judgments that reinforce your own, ignorant and frankly stubborn world view, than you are basically just a *beep* person and should stick to mainstream media where you can be the biggest critic you want. *beep*, the retards who watch that *beep* might even think you're intelligent!
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no street drugs are safer then alcohol or tobacco or even safe at all. i dont consider pot to be a drug because its not. its a plant and it IS harmless. watch the documentary The Union. but anyways, its a great film overall, its more anti drug to drugs that really are BAD. even though not shown, heroin, meth, etc.. drugs that really change people.
If you do good, you'll see me one more time. If you do bad, you'll see me.. two more times.
Wow TC and others are missing out but its a little complicated so I see were one could confuse the message and point of this tale
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