this guy has a wife and 3 kids. ok, he was divorced but still, after he got locked-in they were there for him. spending time with him, taking care of him.
especially his ex wife. my god what an angel!
the guy loves women, we can see that. even in his condition he always looks at womens bodies, fantasizing about them constantly. this could all be allright by me, but after the phone call from his lover, i couldnt help but say out loud "what an a$$hole"!
i mean come on man, there is this woman u were once married and have kids with, she takes care of your needs, she obviously symphatizes with you, she loves you so much that she talks to your lover FOR YOU! and what do you do, you ungrateful little bastard? you tell your girlfriend "i wait for you to come everyday". she hasnt even visited you once!!!! she says she tried to visit but couldnt, but i find that very hard to believe.
anyways, i know that jean do is in a very unpleasant state, and we have to feel bad for him, and we DO feel bad for him. but still i would expect him, after he got so much time on his hands to think about his life, he would know who REALLY loves him and who doesnt.
if i were his wife i would probably leave him at his bed after that phone call and never want to see him again. perhaps she was a bigger person than i am.
MAIS VOUS N'AVEZ PAS DE COEUR. non mais vous fichier de la merde... OH LA LA...enfin! cut him some slack! sorry for speaking french and all but like, heh-LLOOO, if i was put in that position id be in a bad mood all the time. i wouldve been the same way! yeah, she was an "angel" to him, but i dont imagine he coulve appreciated it at that moment because hes like parallyzed! he probably so many thoughts going through his head...what could he really have done? i feel so bad for the guy i dont care if he was mean!!! im sorry but seriously. vous etes completement fou!
*throws Skittles at you* TASTE THE FREAKIN' RAINBOW!
I definitely felt bad for the woman in this scene. you could see the pain in her eyes. her eyes were silently asking "why?" I think the scene depicts a very truthful emotional experience--when a person who loves is rejected by someone who does not love them back.
I think the scene also reiterates Jean Do's utter dependence. Even if he, with all his heart, would not have wanted to involve his ex-wife, she was all he had. It seemed like a 'now or never' moment since months had gone by and the girlfriend had not called or visited. it was as if he could either say what his heart felt right then or carry his silence to his death.
The scene was a watershed moment in the film, in establishing Jean-Do's character. And yes, it's the FICTIONALIZED version of Jean-Do I'm talking about, the one served to us by Schnabel. I'm quite cognizant that that's the only one I can talk about, because I don't know the real one nor do I care to do the research to find out. I'm fine with restricting my comments to the movie one. But this moment crystalized Jean-Do as an ultimately unsympathic character for me. If his locked-in syndrome is supposed to be a reason why his mental functioning no longer works reliably and "all bets are off" with regards to his behaviour vis a vis his family (and make no mistake, married or never, Celine is most definitely his family) we are never given any indication that we're supposed to consider that locked in syndrome has impaired him, because he goes on working and producing a book that no excuses have to be made for. If he is capable of professional, even exceptional quality work...? Anyway, the point is, THE MOVIE does not introduce the concept of mental infirmity. Regardless of whatever other excuses you come up with - he doesn't love Celine, he doesn't want her help, etc. the one thing you can say about him with no qualifications whatsoever is that he is an utterly selfish man. All those things could still be true, but a man who cared at least a little about someone other than himself could've done something other than make a tool out of the mother of his children to express his devotion to a woman she clearly considers his mistress. And when that woman has been compassionate and present and the other has had nothing to give at all - his inability to cut his losses makes him more than insensitive, it makes him rather stupid. But if he wants to carry such a torch, why doesn't he dictate a letter to Ines? This is the place in the film where he goes from being a smug, all-purpose heel to becoming truly insufferable, and coming in for real scrutiny, and the more you look, the worse he becomes. That has to become a whole separate thread :)
After reading the Salon.com article about the making of this movie and how this story was manipulated to create a completely different reality... I think the only a$$hole is the the director, Julian Schnabel for not making a more accurate movie. This wasn't a work of fiction.... it was a biographical movie about the last year and a half of this man's life... should not an attempt have been made to get it right? I feel cheated and sad to think about how much better this movie would have been if it had been more true to actual events and people.
According to the article, the biggest transgression was relegating the role of his partner/girlfriend during that time in Jean-Do's life, to nothing more than a phone call.... when in reality, she was by his side throughout. Yes.... I understand about artistic license to make a movie more interesting and poignant... but how can the story get more poignant than Jean-Do dying in this woman's arms, which is how he actually died. Where was that movie?
"Fat, drunk, and stupid is no way to go through life, son." - Dean Wormer
What we have here is a fictional movie that happens to be based on an autobiographical book. The question is: in which manner should "departure-from-what-really-happened" be judged in such a case? If it was a documentary film, then methinks such a departure would have been a "major" fault. But this was a fictional movie. So - how should directorial decisions be judged in fictional movies? I think those decisions should only be judged within the "reality" of the movie: if the results of those decisions make narrative sense, then those directorial decisions were good. If they don't make narrative sense, then they weren't.
Besides, maybe this should be judged at the level of the script, as the director may have nothing to do with this narrative decision. Even in that case, it should only be judged on the basis of its effectiveness within the film's world. And not in relation with the book. Never mind "historical" facts.
A film is a story. Stories are not real, are they? If they're not real, then they're not faithful to reality. To more or less degree, of course. AFAIC, the additional info that I knew Jean Do was a real person whose suffering was A LOT bigger than any book or film can depict, that info added an extra dimension to this movie, in the sense that it has enhanced my experience - for I was taking Jean Do's suffering more seriously. Now, to learn that his real girlfriend was unfairly treated in the narratives of this fictional film, that touches me A LOT less. Call me heartless, but the secondary characters in this movie were almost insignificant to me. The cinematography was more interesting to me than any secondary character.
As an aside - no, I don't think it is "right" to call the director names. His accomplishments in this film are impressive.
Some people are here talking about what happened in real life. We don't care what happened in real life we just watched the movie and that's why people are judging the movie. If they say this is based on a true story then they gotta do it right. Lots of events are different. So judge the movie not what really happened in real life. Was he really rude to his ex girlfriend (mother of his children)? Depends, if he didn't like her or hated her, may be he didn't even want her to be there in that room, may be he didn't even care about her taking care him may be because there are already people taking care of him in the hospital. Yes he wanted to be with the woman he really loved. But hey, don't you love your kids too. Even tho you don't like that woman, you should be thankful for her to be there for you and to bring your children and let you see them touch them may be for the last time off your life.
Well, I agree with MarionWormer, it raises many questions about Schnabel's integrity. I suppose on some level since it was titled what it was, there's an arguement that he was just trying to make an adaptation of the BOOK, and not Jean-Do's life at all. I read the book a long time ago and frankly I don't remember anything from it about the situation with his children's mommy/current girlfriend whatsoever. I don't know if it wasn't in there or I've just forgotten LOL. But it certainly didn't make a big impression like the movie did, so that is a decision on Schnabel's part - and he did deviate from the more easily graspable reality (if all this info is correct.) And it has been raised in this thread that he did it to accomodate the mommy and make her look better (or the girlfriend worse) because she owned the rights. So Schnabel's a whore. Big surprise, for '80's New York art scenester. Right? ;)
Anyone who divides the world into *beep* and angels is immature.
Also, if you wish to denigrate the film get the details accurate please; it was made plain that Celine was not his wife. This does not diminish her importance or Jean-Do's decision to leave her. To state she's his ex-wife when there are a number of key scenes making it plain she's not means the OP has not watched the film properly and yet wishes to pour burning invective on the protagonist. Decidely unimpressive.
I give my respect to those who have earned it; to everyone else, I'm civil.
The script written for the film has been criticized by Bauby's closest circle of friends as not faithful to events and biased in favor of his ex-partner.[7] His late-life partner Florence Ben Sadoun claims to have been a faithful companion, visiting him frequently at Berck-sur-Mer, the hospital where he lived during his final days. Bauby notes her visits in his memoir.[8] Sylvie de la Rochefoucauld also claims to have visited him frequently at the hospital.