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People Have a Right to Defense, Liberty + the Means To Secure Them(GUNS)


Guns and arms of any kind are the only way to secure liberty. Where would our very own nation be without gun runners? Our own freedom fighters would not have been able to defeat the British without arms.

Why are so many who bemoan the oppression of the poor always seek to disarm them? Yuri was a man without a moral compass, I myself would not have armed some of the people he was arming, I would have picked sides and would have armed those who I deemed to be on the side of good using my best judgement. Trying to choose those who needed to defeat brutal oppression. That being said, that was not the intent of this movie. The movie's message is that ALL guns are evil, and selling them is evil. No! Guns are tools and in the hands of the good they are good tools, in the hands of the evil they are evil tools.

Let's not forget that the Liberian president in the movie never existed and the brutal son who ate people and shot at innocents from a jeep as they ran also never existed.

That scene where the mother and child are hacked to death was meant to make you take pause, but they were hacked away at with machete's NOT guns and that was a perfect scene because it inadvertently sends a message. These people would commit atrocities with or without guns, with or without bombs. If the average man is armed there are no tyrants, that's what the right tried to make the left understand when the left has one hand on my gun and the other on a bullhorn screaming that it's for the children.

This chart from the jpfo is interesting. It shows that every nation with genocides in the 20th century had strict gun control laws.

http://jpfo.org/filegen-a-m/deathgc.htm#chart

Jefferson said;

"No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government"

He also said;

"The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong, but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the Atmosphere. "

and;

"& what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not warned from time to time that his people preserve the spirit of resistance? Let them take arms."

I know, I know, I'm a TERRIBLE Christian because I'm talking about guns and the right to self defense, and you people are going to sit there and tell me what it really means to be a Christian and how I'm doing a bad job at living up to your standards.

Luckily, I don't live by YOUR standards. What does the BIBLE have to say about it?

Psalm 82:4 Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked.

Ezekiel 33 "... 6 'But if the watchman sees the sword coming and does not blow the trumpet, and the people are not warned, and a sword comes and takes a person from them, he is taken away in his iniquity; but his blood I will require from the watchman's hand.'

"He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one."

Luke 22:36




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"I would have picked sides and would have armed those who I deemed to be on the side of good using my best judgement."

I used to think that way when I was a teenager. The truth is though, you would never be in business for long. Every person you came to deal with you would realize was on the wrong side of good. This is why the movie goes great lengths to show how emotionless cage's character is. You could never do this kind of work with any type of moral compass. You can further open your eyes by realizing that "good" is only a perspective.

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You're everything that is wrong with America

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