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Which is worse: drug dealing or arms dealing?!


Is interesting the question. Both dealings are illegal and both products kills but I would say drug dealing is worse because drugs serve no purpose whereas guns serve a purpose: to defend and/or kill!



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Is interesting the question. Both dealings are illegal and both products kills but I would say drug dealing is worse because drugs serve no purpose whereas guns serve a purpose: to defend and/or kill!


i would agree with you overall.

because Drugs, primarily the hard drugs like meth/crack/heroine etc, bring nothing but destruction/misery where as Guns can still be used for good.


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I disagree that guns can be used for "good" but I understand what you mean..

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guns can be used for good like self-defense or sport/fun etc. guns sure as hell can level the playing field if you got a gun as without that and it comes to hand-to-hand combat (or stabbing weapons etc) i would not be in good shape personally as i am smaller than most guys but with a gun my size don't matter.

p.s. you a anti-gun person i take it? (personally i support the right to bear arms)


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I am not an anti-gun person at all; I live in the Southern US and keep a visible holster every where I go (and I don't really remember this post or its context) but guns are designed to kill. Even if it's used to save your life or that of your loved ones, someone is still wounded or dead. I don't know anybody who would call "wounded or dead" a good thing.

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Drugs do serve a purpose, they serve a huge purpose. Just look at the pharmaceutical industry and modern medicine as proof, those are drugs no matter which way you look at it. Yes, hard drugs like crack, meth, and heroin are destroyers of lives and cause much more harm than good, but even meth and heroin have synthetic and semi-synthetic pharmaceutical derivatives which are used as legal medicine. Drugs are a double-edged sword, just like everything else in life, including guns.

The biggest difference between weapons and illegal hard drugs in my mind is the fact that drugs can take over every aspect of someones life when abused, while weapons are used by certain governments and organizations to control every aspect of peoples lives. Weapons, for the most part, are controlled by people and not the other way around, the true determining factor of if a weapon is bad or good comes down to whose hands it is in and what it is used for, and whether those who possess the weapons can be trusted with them, or whether they will only use those weapons for purposes of control and power over others through fear, intimidation, and ultimately violence.

I'm sure we can all agree though that nuclear weapons are terrible no matter whose hands they are in, with the Hiroshima as Nagasaki bombings as proof, although they may have been necessary to an extent there is no denying that the destruction those weapons cause is too great for any government, organization, or individual to possess. Nuclear weapons can be used to hold entire countries hostage if placed in the wrong hands and used for the wrong purposes, and those from the Cold War generation truly know the potential that nuclear weapons have for destroying everything we have built and worked towards as a global civilization.

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Guns are worse. You can wipe out an entire village in 15 mins with few guns. It could take months with drugs.
Either way our governments will keep both around for long long time.


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I don't know...what's worse? A quick death, or a death that's dragged on for months and months. A death that you inflict upon yourself with a snort or an injection, and it's almost impossible to stop...

Yeah. Give me a quick death.

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Haha. I hadnt thought of it that way. Yes, the last few months of a junkies life would be a nightmare, thats for sure.


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I partly agree with you that "both products kill", but you should look at WHO gets killed by the products.
With arms dealing, it's OTHER people who get killed, while it's the guys buying the weapons that do the killing. So it's not so easy to avoid getting killed by those products.
But with drug dealing, it's those who buy and use the products that get killed.
Big difference.

I'd say that arms dealing is definately worse. And the main reason why drug dealing is bad, is because the ones who producs the drugs in the first place, use the money to buy guns in order to keep their wars running.

If drugs suddenly became legal, so there would be no need for illegal production and dealing in drugs, a large part of the wars in the world would suddenly stop. Because the warring parts wouldn't be able to afford it anymore.

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You should have asked " which is worse: making/selling alcohol & cigarettes or arms dealing ? " seeing as how alcohol and cigarettes cause more death and destruction than heroin, cocaine or meth combined.

Heroin aside from the possibility of an overdose causes almost no physiological damage to the body whatsoever.

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Arms dealing - under the table for no reason but profit.

Of course drug dealing that relies on terrifying, killing, addicting and enslaving all manner of beings is right up there as an equal.

They both destroy this world.

Arms in some sort of sane inventory for defense, certainly.

Drugs as long as they don't cause someone to hurt someone else, go ahead.

(Although there's a few items in each category that I wish we could eliminate or replace.)

Look what meth does to people. Some people do need a boost. Could we give them something else that does not rot them out from the inside? Something natural?

Why don't we come up with a way for people to receive relief from opiates without the terrible tolerance and withdrawal factor?

Can't we evolve to find weapons that incapacitate the enemy without having to worry about friendly fire/hitting the wrong target? (I mean mankind, not one country.)

I could go on but it would be redundant.
Refine the instrument and its usefulness; become more civilized, not just new and improved.

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Drugs don't serve a purpose. Okay lets all just ignore the last millennia of medicine shall we?

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i would say drug dealing. because it generates much more money than arms dealing and fuels the arms dealing in return!

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Drug dealing, no one gets addicted to guns

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both on same level.

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