This movie outrages me..

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Never seen the movie, but have you ever been in a situation/confrontation that you knew that no matter what you said to stand up for yourself, it wouldn't make a difference? If those men treated her as was stated in later posts, do you think her standing up for herself to them would have made those men stop, or do you think it would have made the treatment worse? Do you think her standing up for herself to that woman at the hockey game would have made that woman less or more likely to believe she really was trying to sleep with her husband?

The thing that many people who do not come from Minnesota is the "stereotypical Minnesota kindness". When watching this movie I completely understood the feelings of the main character and the reactions of the other women. I am not saying that it excuses the ACTUAL women who this movie is based off of, but if you are not from the area you don't really understand. Also, the reason that it became unacceptable for men to treat women that way was because of this case, if you lived back then you would realize that it how it was. Times are different now, or at least some like to think, and YOU must recognize that this is a period piece even if the period was not that long ago. The point of this film is to honor a woman who stood up for herself and her coworkers in a time that no one gave a rats behind about women. It is not demoralizing and it is part of your history as a female. Recognize how far we have come because of that woman's courage and strength to do what she had to do for herself, her family, and her friends, and respect what she has done for you.

Yes, the perpetrators deserved nothing less than having the cold steel barrel of a 12-gage shotgun shoved up their a**es, the trigger pulled, and the excruciation of their guts being blown out from the inside.

I agree with the OP; I thought it was stunning that Josey didn't say SOMETHING to her boss...and especially to the woman at the hockey game.
That said, I was equally stunned that Josey's father let that man at the meeting say "Hey Josey, show us your t!ts!" I don't care how angry he was at his daughter, he should have bum-rushed him and knocked him out! That was his daughter for God's sake, and this was in PUBLIC.



"Mulder? Are you sure you're all right?"
"I'm fine.......I'm free."

It is extremely difficult to present a complex series of events involving so many lives in a two hour movie. While I think that the movie could have done better in many aspects, I reconize this limitation.

Most of the men and women involved lived in a such a culture for generations that in some instances, they did not recognize what was happening to them for what it was. The movie, of course, must compress decades of events into a small time frame in effort to highlight the main points to the viewers. It must also compress the various lives, viewpoints, and personalities of a large group of people into just a few representative characters.

Not all the women were "helpless." Quite contrary, many veiwed themselves as "women of steele," like a badge of honor to be thick skinned enough to handle the life as a miner. One woman broke the ribs of her perpetrator when he grabbed her breasts.

Jensen was not from the immediate area. She was an outsider looking in. Her family lived in Northern Minnesota and as it is for many people there, it is a strong incentive to remain in the area even when jobs are scarce.

Most of us have encountered a situation at some time in our lives where we are taken off gaurd by the reaction of another. We are left shocked, bewildered for the moment, missing the opporturnity to respond the way we think we would. Hindsight we may think of a thousand ways we could have responded, but the time passed. For those who did react, it did nothing to stop it. If anything, it only egged them on further.

The incident at the hockey game was to represent the rumors and anger of the wives of the miners, and how memebers of the community vewied the women (mining whores). Her reaction in the parking lot was to represent the results of the stress the entire situation was causing her.

"Josie" (Jensen) ultimately chose to stand up for herself AND for the other women in the mine (as well as the men who supported them) in a way far, far more couragous then a few minutes of outrage and short term satisfaction on the spot. She sacrificed years of her life, living in poverty yet again after tasting the benefits of a stable, well paying job with benefits. She sacrificed her reputation, freindships, relationships with family. She sacrificed her very health both physical and mental. Most people involved in such a case would never risk having every detail of their lives in the public spotlight scrutinized and faulted by adversaries. If she did not know the extent of what she would endure to begin, she certainly became aware again and again throughout the long process. Yet she did not give up.

Perhaps she LEARNED how to stand up for herself, in a way many of us never will.

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She was shocked, and realising that there was nothing she could say that would make any difference. And you cannot say what you'd do unless you've done it. This movie is about people who do feel powerless learning to stand up for themselves. If she'd started off as some tough broad with a chip on her shoulder no one would understand why she even waited 5 minutes to make a stink. Not everyone is strong - and it was a hell of a lot more difficult for women to stand up for themselves 25 years ago than it is now. 1984 saw the FIRST class action suit for sexual harassment. No matter how powerful you imagine women to be, fact is that until this happened they DIDN'T stand up for themselves, so it is an accurate portrayal.

"He married her six weeks after the... previous sequence."