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If somebody has an IQ of 150


If somebody has an IQ of 150 at the present time, is this how he sees the world?

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I have never taken an IQ test and don't have a clue of what my score. I stopped being surprised by the dumb things people do a long time ago. I sometimes feel like I'm stuck in idiocracy. I also have a group of friends who are very smart and they help keep me balanced.
I think the saddest thing is when children say "Wow, you are so smart" or "You are the smartest person I know" and they are being truthful.

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.

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While I think IQ is quite a flawed way to measure intelligence, the answer is a resounding YES. I almost cried when I saw this movie because that was the first time I knew someone else actually saw the world the way that I do.

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I have an older brother with an IQ on that level. He is a research scientist. He is brilliant at his job, but every other aspect of life is a total mystery to him. I don't know how he survives.

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I have a brother who has an IQ of 148 and who is a member of Mensa. My Iq is 132. I got it measured in the army. I feel like my brother is way smarter than the 16 point difference between us. I am very social and I have no problem walking up and talking to just about anyone and I like to drink and party, while my brother has never had a drop of alcohol, and fears meeting new people.

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??? where did the army do your IQ test that's is totally not normal.

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I don't know about the IQ of 150, but for me, this world feels a lot like this movie's world felt to the protagonist of this movie, ever since I was a teenager.

It's like I am on an alien planet, and I experience culture shock every day. Some days are more tolerable than others, but I can't stop being astonished about the things these half-animals consider 'normal' or 'good', or how they consider actually good or healthy things 'bad' or 'boring' or 'things one should not mention or think about'.

No one seems to like to think about things too deeply, and to me, that's the normal, everyday thing to do. Everything that I encounter, makes me think and wonder about the roots of it, how it came to be, why, and how.

I respect life - these entities SAY they respect life, while slicing a bloody, poisonous, fried muscle of some innocent animal and then putting the pieces inside their own body.

I think not only IQ points or even just 'intelligence' (try to define that word, btw..) matters, but also WISDOM.

Wisdom is a very important thing, essential to sentient life, in my opinion - and here, it's completely ignored and mostly missing. Even when there's intelligence, there's no wisdom.

Even here, people just talk about intelligence (just like in the movie), but I also saw a lot of 'dumbness' and not just 'stupidity' in the movie.

Dumbness is the lack of wisdom, whereas stupidity is the lack of intelligence.

There was even a movie about stupidity, and what it is, and how to define it, and pretty much no one got it right; it's nothing substancial in itself, any more than a shadow is. It's just a word for LACK of something, or an abnormally low amount of something - intelligence.

So, it's very easy to define, as I have already done.

People on this planet don't even ponder or know about the very basic things, like 'day', 'night', 'morning', 'evening', and such things.

Everyone reading this probably feels that they know exactly what those words mean. But let me ask some questions.

(even Wikipedia doesn't have a clear and consistent answer)

When does 'day' begin, and end?

When does 'morning' begin and end?

When does 'afternoon' begin and end?

When does 'evening' begin and end?

When does 'night' begin and end?

I tried to find answers to these questions, and I got different answers from different sources, until I started to just apply logic.

Twelve noon (12:00) is midday. I don't think anyone would dispute that.

Midnight occurs at the middle of the night (00:00). Here again, I think we all are on the same page.

Now, the clock seems to be symmetrical, and for these two to be the mid-points, it means that the day and the night must be symmetrical as well.

That means that if noon is twelve, there has to be just as many hours on the left side of an analog clock (though I know it's supposedly not really called 'analog', but that's an easy way to remember and most people realize exactly what I mean, probably) as there are on the right side, for twelve to be the MIDDLE point of a day.

If there's less than six hours on both sides, then night is longer than day. Why would that be? And if that's true, can 00:00 really be the middle point of the night? Also, if that's true, then when would 'morning' begin, or what would decide that, and how, and why?

So, it's easier and simpler to come back to the realization; day lasts 12 hours, night lasts 12 hours, and it's perfectly symmetrical and makes sense.

This is probably the only true thing we can say about this matter, because the other definitions are not so easy.

Now, when does 'morning' begin?

We could say that it begins at 06:00 am, and ends, for example, at 09:00 am. But then, people would still say "ten in the morning" or "five in the morning", so that's no good.

Maybe morning could be the first half of the day? From 06:00 am to 12:00 midday? No, people would still say "four thirty in the morning".

I don't have a perfect answer to this, but my point is, that neither does anyone else seem to have - it's like most people use these terms without knowing what they even mean!

I'd be satisfied by 'morning' being 03:00 am -> 09:00 am, and everything after 09:00 am being 'day' until 15:00 pm, when 'evening' could begin. 'Afternoon' could be from noon to 18:00 pm, but even that seems a bit arbitrary.

And as we can see, these terms overlap; it can be simultaneously 'morning' and 'night', because 'morning' is the last part of the night and the first part of the day according to this definition.

But there doesn't seem to be an 'official definition' to this on this planet, like one would expect (or at least I did), so it's all rather confusing.

I could go on, but I think I have made my point about this. Just how confident do you, dear reader, feel now, about knowing what the terms 'morning', 'day', 'evening' and 'night' mean?

I think almost any explanation about these things can always be countered by a counter-explanation, that's just as valid, or even more valid. If we say that 'evening', for example, starts at 18:00 pm, someone would always say that people say "five in the evening". Then what? If we make it begin at 15:00 pm, then there will be people saying "four in the afternoon".

We could say that -anything- after the noon, is afternoon - but by that definition, even the minutes before the noon should be called 'afternoon' - after all, they did happen after the previous noon - and surely that's not very common or practical.

We could of course surmise that most of those terms are just loose, fuzzy, 'about'-type terms that do not have clear definitions or limits, and people use them any way they please (on this planet, this seems to be pretty much the case about pretty much any words).

I once made a very logical chart about this, though .. when I was trying to understand what would be the best, most logical and useful definition to all those terms, and I also realized there's one word MISSING - there's no word for 'night-evening', although there's a word for 'forenoon' (more used in other languages than english).

I mean the slot between 21:00 pm and 00:00 midnight. There doesn't seem to be a word for that, but every other place in the clock seems to have some kind of fuzzy term.

In any case, we are living in a world where the denizens do not even know what these very basic, everyday words really mean. So how can there be hope for them to comprehend anything grander?

I definitely do not have the IQ of 150, I just like to think a lot, and almost everything I observe about this planet's "normality" shocks and scares me a lot. And I can't understand why it doesn't seem to even phase almost anyone else.. so this movie makes me feel like at least someone else might be going through something similar. I could probably write many books about my observations (and as text amount, I already have, but they are not categorized writings), and not be even close to coming to the end of my list of what I think is wrong or really strange about this planet or its inhabitants.

So I definitely feel like that man in Idiocracy, trying to survive in a stupid and hostile world, that gets stupider, more intrusive, and more hostile every day. Cameras on normal BUSES? REALLY? ATMs being phased out? Automatic cashier machines that ONLY accept cards?? REALLY? Self-service post-office? Privately owned cops, busfirms, post offices, and hospitals? (What do we need government for, if suddenly corporations are doing all this?) Holy macril..

This movie's future actually starts looking really optimistical, like a paradise-fantasy, compared to what it's probably going to be like, if this keeps up.

(Hm, why do so many of my innocent IMDb comments turn into rants?)

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You devote deep thought to such trivial matters? REALLY? lol

When does 'day' begin, and end?
Begins at sunrise. Ends at sunset. This is variable -- depends on time of year.

When does 'morning' begin and end?
Begins 00:00 or 12am, ends at 12pm.

When does 'afternoon' begin and end?
Begins 12pm, ends when the sun has set and is not visible on the horizon.

When does 'evening' begin and end?
Begins after sunset and IMO ends after twilight. Again, this depends on season, so in summer it may start at 8pm, in winter 5pm.

When does 'night' begin and end?
After twilight. That is, wherever YOU are positioned on the Earth, if there is no visible light reaching your eyes from the sun, you can assume it's night time.


I believe the reason there's no universally accepted definitions of day/night phases is because of the variability at Northern and Southernmost regions. For example, I know daylight is present for something like 18 hours or more in countries like Sweden at certain times of the year.

You mention people eating the flesh of animals. You eat fruit and vegetables?
Okay, think about this.
You wrote:

I respect life


Plants and trees are living things too. In those cases, we're mostly eating the testicles and sperm (seed) of living beings! Okay, as far as we know they're not sentient beings, but living just the same.

Seriously, avortac, ease up a little or you'll make yourself ill.

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Were you implying that eating meat is dumb?

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My IQ is way above you heathenish reprobates! Your obtuse and vapid minds can never measure up to the gargantuan size of my IQ! You sanctimonious piles of excrement can never measure up to my superior intellect! BEHOLD MY POWERFUL IQ SCORE!

1,678,534.03 Pickles is my IQ score, now bow before your new god!!!!



"Hear me now! This place is cursed, damned, and yes your master is the devil!"

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Bwahaha!!!

"...if only you could see what I've seen with your eyes!" Roy Batty

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Time, as you are here discussing it, is a Societal concept. Hence, all those things are whenever people agree that they are.

You might as well ask "when is lunch?"

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I don't think a person with a high IQ would see the world as an idiocracy. Most of the world's problems aren't caused by stupidity, but our selfish and greedy objectives. A stupid person can be a saint and a very smart person the opposite. It's our goals in life that make the world what it is. Not who we are.

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I agree with this. The advancement of society as a whole is only possible if people decide to care about others instead of themselves.

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Thank you sir/lady/human being for making the most reasonable, reasoned and useful remark in this whole thread without ever referencing your own hypotethically high IQ.

Everybody else, please, I beg you, take notice. That's how it's done.

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yes, this is exactly how I see people today......this movie will help me why I feel sometimes isolated and lonely. And I also decided it is time for me to have kids.

my brain hurts when I hear music today, sometimes when I see movies, and when I see movies from the 90s or 80s or even shows I see much higher intelligence than today.
most people don't like old movies or old super hero movies because of the bad effects compared to today, but the story lines and acting is out of this world.

And this is also why I don't like porn.....I truly hope I will find this rare man who is not into porn but erotic movies. We need to populate!

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And then there is also the incomprehensible celebrity status of Kim Kardashian. It's like something straight out of this movie.

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Sure this has to do with the IQ and not just with... well... having taste? I mean, not just a different taste, but taste at all?

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My IQ is 160. Fortunately I work in I.T. where most people have a clue. Dealing with average or below-average IQ people can be a difficult thing sometimes, but over the years I've figured out how to do it without coming across all holier-than-thou. I've also learned to get a quick read on someone's intelligence level and adjust my conversation accordingly; I'm not discussing quantum mechanics with the cashier at McD's (unless of course she brings it up - she may just be starting out; heck, I used to work in a warehouse.) It's not coincidence that my most enlightening conversations are with my immediate family, who all have IQs of at least 145. My father and brother are brilliant physicians, my sister a NASA engineer, and my mother a teacher/lawyer/mediator/administrator.
With regards to culture, it is dumbing down at an alarming pace. There is the occasional glimmer of hope, like the past year when Neil deGrasse Tyson's "Cosmos" show gained popularity. But then I watch "Cops," or the local news, and I'm saddened again.

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