I loved this movie until the ending
I thought the ending was a cop out and lacked any balls or creativity.
Can anybody reccomend any films with the same kind of suspenseful, surreal build up but with a better ending?
I thought the ending was a cop out and lacked any balls or creativity.
Can anybody reccomend any films with the same kind of suspenseful, surreal build up but with a better ending?
I don't know I thought it was full circle. And to be honest I expected Mort to die.
shareSpoilers for the novella:
[spoilers]Actually, in the novella, he does die. He's shot before he can kill Ted and Amy.[/spoilers]
But, fortunately, it’s also clear that everybody goes down well with beer!
I like the movie ending better, but the book ending seems more correct. Either way it's a good movie. I never read Stephen King before, is this a good place to start?
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The Stand Movie was long but good. alright, then I might just have to pick up one of those books sometime. Thanks
shareI was hoping the same kind of mind-war would also occur, yet with Mort defeating Shooter but killing b!tch of a wife anyway.
That he would struggle with his split-personality but then eventually realise "hey, Shooter is right! My wife is a cheating whore who ruined me and is still attempting to use me but play the victim! I SHOULD kill her".
I found the ending to be tremendously satisfying. Just, even.
shareYes, because heaven forbid, if there was a happy ending, it totally would have *beep* up your dreadful, ugly, nihilistic little buttwhining lifestyle.
shareIf youve never read Stephen King before I suggest starting with either Firestarter or Misery. Then move on to books like The Shining, The Stand, IT, Salems Lot, etc. A great book he made recently (most of his recent work doesnt hold a candle to his old) is 11/22/63 about the kennedy assasination and time travel.
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"Spoilers for the novella:
[spoilers]Actually, in the novella, he does die. He's shot before he can kill Ted and Amy.[/spoilers]"
I've read the original story ("Secret Window, Secret Garden") several times, but much like in "The Mist," I vastly prefer the darker, cinematic ending. Otherwise, however, the movie is very faithful to the novella. John Turturro had to have read the story himself, in order to get the "John Shooter" character so damn perfect. He deserved an Academy Award nomination for Best Supporting Actor, in my opinion.
Been making IMDB board posts since the 90s, yet can't bring up any from before December of 2004.
Not to split hairs, but would that be more appropriate for best supporting actor, or should they have pushed for 'best actor'? XD
shareGreat job with the spoilers tag, that really helped.
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Personally I'd say THAT is the cop out ending. Killing off Mort, like every murderer in every thriller in history of time? (exaggerated...) That would've been boring. I didn't expect him to actually kill them and survive and even "live happily ever after" in his own demented world.
I think the major problem for some people is "Oh he lives because he's Johnny Depp and they lacked the balls to kill him off"
I personally was very surprised by the ending and that's why I like the movie. It's different than a lot of other movies in my opinion. Of course it has to face the ultimate Psycho comparison, but that's OK for me.
I found the ending a bit of a poke at the whole thing when Shooter is trying to get Mort to change his ending because he thinks its better. The film makers changed the ending because they felt it was better.
Other than that it was an okay movie, I found it a tad bit predictable. However I was wondering if Mort would die in the end or not and he didn't which is a nice change of pace I guess.
You thought the ending lacked balls, angeltobaros? I thought it had MORE balls than the original book ending. Not many Hollywood films are game enough to kill off the "good" characters, while leaving the "bad" characters to live, especially if said movie is based off a book with a different end.
I thought it was alot more creative and "bally" than people give it credit for.
Well I have never read the book, but this this movie had such an intriguing build up that I could not wait to see how the filmmakers would resolve it without resorting to the 'it's all in his head' angle. Something, anything would have been better and if they had to they could have hinted at the possibility of insanity, but also offered something different as well.
The movies' biggest strength was it's strangeness and how it kept you in suspense, waiting and wondering how it would unravel. I just felt it needed an ending equally as strange that never quite gave you the answer you were looking for, but offered some interesting interpretations that you could think about after it finished which would make you want to come back for more. Instead they tied things up too neatly with the most uninteresting, cliched ending imaginable and even though I loved 95% of this film I have no desire to watch it again.
Well don't blame the filmmakers for the "It's all in his head" angle. That's how it was in the story. The filmmakers were just following the source material. If they decided to take out that MAJOR plot point, that would've been stupid. They would've had to change the story completely.
shareI realize this thread is super old but I must point out that bmalone here is wrong. In the story it is established that yes, Shooter was created by the mind of Mort, but it was not *all* in his head as Shooter became a real entity and other people DID see him and he DID screw with Mort and he DID leave Amy a note after Mort dies and all that. So, to say it was all in his head and nothing more is not entirely accurate.
I personally thought the ending in the book was lame as far as it turning out that Shooter had some sort of physical existence, but whatever.
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The ending was great! Teaches you not to be a cheating whore. His cheating wife deserved to die with her lover and they can be buried out back together!
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I'd have liked it if it was the same, but somehow it was implied that Shooter was a little more than in Rainey's head - my favourite part of the book was when the old man thought he saw a ghostly Shooter by the lake.
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As a writer, this is one of my worst fears realized, so this is of course one of my favorite books of SK's and one of my favorite movies because of that. The whole Johnny's hot has nothing to do with it, at all. (well, almost nothing)
shareShooter was real in the novella. He wasn't a ghost, just very good at hiding. Add to the fact that Mort was unbalanced from the get-go, a lot of his conversations with Shooter could have been fabricated in his cracked mind...
shareYou're pretty freaking sick if really think someone deserves to die for cheating on the spouse. She certainly deserved to be left with nothing but the equally useless jackass she's cheating with. It would really be karma if, after getting her divorce and getting settled in with her lover, Ted then cheated on her. *That* she would deserve, *not* dying.
shareThen maybe people wouldn't cheat. Kill em all
shareYes, watch 'Memento.' It's excellent.
sharehey .... its johnny depp, he cant die. If they killed him off like the book it would of been degrading to his godliness. Anyway, I like it when the bad guy wins ... one of my favorite movies.
share...why'd you reply to me? my comment was pretty irrelevant to the topic at hand. i was suggesting to watch another movie...
but it's all good. i dont actually mind. i just felt like pretending to be an arrogant arse like many others here.
Memento is GOOD
shareI'm sorry, what would you have preferred? That Mort died? Then you would be right here bashing the movie that the ending was cliched!
Some people just can' be satisfied. If the bad guy dies, it's cliched. If the bad guy lives it didn't "have enough balls" as you so eloquently put it.
Well, if anyone is still looking, I suggest the European version of The Vanishing.
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I would recommend Abre los Ojos, but I thought the ending was wacked out.
And I heard that the American remake is worse.