The mystery of Matteo


What is the deal with Matteo? He was so sad and handsome. Gabriella in "It does Italian Cinema Proud" mentions Matteo's "desperate need for rules are a tragic consequence of an ancient wound". What is this ancient wound?

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After just seeing the third episode on BBC Four, I have to agree with some who have posted here. For me, the tragedy of Matteo all went back to Giorgia. In my opinion, the moment that she was taken away by the police, Matteo realised he could never let anyone get close to him again. As he told Mirella in no uncertain terms, he is a piece of s*** and asks why anyone would think otherwise.
Matteo thought he failed Giorgia, and did everything he could to disconnect himself from the world – join the army, become a policeman, get posted to Sicily, move back to Rome but not let his family know. Poor old Matteo could not bare to let anyone near him, or, more importantly, close to him. In his eyes he was a failure, a *beep* up.
Just an unbelievably rich and engrossing drama though. Can't wait for the final episode next week!

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What's unquestionably true is he was too good looking to die. That's what pushed it into the major wrongness league.

It was very mysterious and unexpected. Those scenes were brilliantly done because you could see something was up but I never truly figured on suicide. I thought it may be leading to his assassination by the Red Brigade or something. But it was a surprise when he went over the balcony.

I missed episode one and bits of episode two so I can't really speculate, but I think his suicide was somehow linked to his sense of machismo. That may sound paradoxical as suicide is perhaps seen as weakness. But it must take a lot of guts, and I got the sense that he was an agressive character overall.

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We are not given enough information to come up with a definite interpretation of Matteo's troubled personality, and that's why his character is shrouded in mystery. How does one get driven to suicide? One who seemingly has everything, good looks, intelligence, education, a loving family...

Was Matteo clinically depressed? he didn't have the behavior of a depressed man, did he? (I'm no expert on the matter, just asking) You'd think that the ancient wound would have to be pretty deep to not heal with the passing of time.

Staying within the information we do have (ruling out, for instance, the relationship with his mother -- the mother blames herself for not loving Matteo the way he would have expected, but that's her theory, which I dismiss), I have two theories, one abstract and one simple.

The abstract theory is hardly a theory -- Matteo was a perfectionist and a rebel who repeatedly saw his ideals sullied (the professors are stupid, sex is ugly, the doctors are cruel, Giorgia's father doesn't give her the love she needs, etc.), he couldn't take it, it made him furious, but his fury itself had the seeds of evil (he leaves his brother at the train station, he loses his temper too easily, especially with Mirella). Possible.

The simple theory is that Matteo had a troubled sexuality, either impotent, gay, or violent (and possibly all three). Again, he couldn't take it, hated himself and eventually his life.

What is the ancient wound? I doubt there was a single wound, I think there were multiple wounds and they just got worse with the passing of time.

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I enjoyed this mini-series so much that I saw it twice, to make sure that I did not miss anything due to the subtitles. Matteo appeared to me to be a hot head or someone with a chip on his shoulder. Funny that many should think that he was gay. It never occured to me, but his brother Nicola's character did send out some feminine hints. Matteo was irratated when his father asked him to do a simple short chore, he wanted to help the girl from the institute, but always managed to argue with her. Even after so many years went by, he could not be with her without an arguement. Matteo was the guy always ready to punch someone out. With his love of books and poetry, it did seem odd that he was so hostile. Nicola on the other hand was so giving and understanding. Matteo arranged for his brother to meet in the chicken coop with his regular prostitute and Nicola wanted to pay her and do nothing. When Nicola went to Norway, the girl had to initiate the relationship. Even when he and his child's mother were together, "We are living like sister and brother" and then she showed the interest. He could play with his daughter, like two little girls. It did not show the personalities of the parents until much later in the series, much like a child gets to know and appreciate their parents later in life. There is much to think about in this series, sometimes six hours is not enough.

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Matteo is mentaL ILLNESS in Italy which was not talked about it ,the use of medicines was seen as a bad method which iy intossicates I lived that period and Matteo is a typical example of Italian deppresed in the 70's and 80's ,He is a reality

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You are right. Matteo is chronically depressed. Poor guy: if only Nicola had Rx'd some Welbutrin.

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He was chronically depressed -- of that, there can be no doubt. However, in his malaise, he understands that it would be unfair and just wrong to inflict his world pain on another human being within the context of a relationship. Painful as it was for Mirella, he actually did that woman a favor. His son, as well.

Every boy needs his father, for sure. But wasn't Andrea far better off having Nicola and his grandmother in his life during his formative years? Had Matteo lived, it's a safe bet that Andrea would never have written and stated to his uncle/stepfather about all things in life having beauty.

Some people, like Matteo, are just not meant for this world.

This was an excellent drama with a specific point of view and it was beautifully acted. I enjoyed it immensely and would recommend it very highly.

The devil turns away from a closed door.

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Matteo is saddened by guilt. He is driven by guilt.

The constant theme of this movie is the lack of justice in Italian society. Matteo tries to fight the problem, but every undertaking ends with tragedy. Left with guilt, he shies away from everyone. In the end, he even fails himself.

When Matteo sees cruel treatment Giorgia was getting, he decides to take her to the father. This ends in a disaster, which leave Matteo to quit school altogether and join the army. By then, he was frustrated by the 'elephants' of the system in the university anyway.

While in the army, Matteo is clear to not join the police force afterward. He jokes about it to Nicola only to tease him. Joining the force was his friend's goal. However, when that friend was paralyzed, Matteo apparently blamed himself and was left with the guilt. He pursued the injured friend's dream of joining the force.

While in Sicily, Matteo meets Mirella. In need of wanting to be someone else, he told her that he is Nicola. When they meet later in Rome, why didn't Matteo tell her? Perhaps, his love toward Mirella became a desire to impress her. Matteo must've been afraid to dissapoint her. Perhaps, Matteo was afraid if he was too close to her, she'd be hurt too... like everyone else.

He failed to talk to his dad before his death, and he failed to meet his mother's expectation. His guilt made him withdraw from everything and he felt guilty about withdrawing from everything.

Matteo's fault was his belief that he CAN fix the problem by himself. He avoided everything when he couldn't fix it. When the last call to open up was left unanswered, he chose to finally close the door on everybody.

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This is my take:

I agree with what others have said about Matteo's suicide being caused both by his experiences with Giorgia and with his inability to reconcile his sense of justice and "rules" with the corruption both of the police department and society at large.

I also think that Giorgia and Matteo are parallel characters, to the point that it is impossible to understand one without the other.

I've offered this theory in another thread, but I will post it again, as I think Virginia Wolf's "Mrs Dalloway" might offer some clues.

I instantly thought of Mrs Dalloway in terms of the Giorgia/Matteo relationship. In Mrs Dalloway, Mrs Dalloway's story is paralleled with that of a shell shocked and suicidal WWI veteran. Both are unhappy and both are suicidal (although, Mrs Dalloway's suicidal tendencies are much more under the surface). Anyhow, the they never meet, but Mrs Dalloway eventually hears that the soldier has killed himself by diving out the window of his psychiatrist's office and impaling himself on the spiked fence bellow. While she never knew him, realizing that someone so young would throw his life away (which she reads as a defiant act to preserve his happiness) somehow gives her the strength to overcome her own suicidal tendencies and discover a renewed zest for life (whether it will last, however, and whether or not MRs Dalloway will ultimately once again succumb to her own depression is left open to interpretation as the book ends).

Anyways, I see Giorgia and MAtteo as having a similar parallel connection. They are both obviously mentally ill (or arguably anyway, as I think one could make the case that Mattaeo's act is entirely sane, while the rest of society has gone insane), even if Matteo's illness is kept under the wraps. Like the soldier in the novel, Matteo seems to adhere so rigidly to a code of honor in the film that he cannot sacrifice his ideals of justice (in the face of the corruption of the police department) so he kills himself. It's only after Matteo kills himself that Giorgia begins to inquire about his girlfriend, begins to talk, leaves the mental institute, and eventually gets her own apartment. They are obviously connected as characters (he is the one who eventually stole her from the institute after all, and it's meeting with her that ultimately makes him to decide to join the police force) so I think his death had a lot to do with her recovery. Perhaps, her silence was a revolt against the absurdity of the rules and tortures of the mental institutes she was forced into. Perhaps it is only after Matteo is able to take the ultimate gesture of defiance against the corruption of the purported benevolent and "orderly" rules and laws of the government (the corruption of which he experiences first hand) in order to preserve his dignity that Giorgia is herself able to find the strength to break out of the laws of the mental institutes: the often corrupt and arbitrary laws which dictate what is sane and insane--and find her own voice.

Of course, I don't think the film explores this link between the characters much, which I ultimately found to be kind of disappointing and unsatisfying. But the more I think about it, the more their actions make sense (even if I wish the film had dealt a bit more with them as characters than it did with Nicola).

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I agree with this. I posted a question about Matteo's suicide, but just read an interview with Marco Giordana, the director of the film. He says Matteo's problem is that his sensitivity prevents him from making decisions for himself and he is rendered kind of useless and weak. He doesn't follow through with his passions (photography, Giorgia, etc)...something Nicola DOES do. He pursues a career in the police because then he won't have to make decisions for himself, because the rules are all set out. In fact, Matteo virtually says this himself...when questioned by his new lieutenant as to why he became a cop.

Giordana also says (like the previous poster) that Giorgia and Matteo are tragically linked. Matteo falls in love with Giorgia but doesn't act on it and this ultimately torments him.

Such a sad and tragic film....but also filled with tremendous hope at the end.

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Great thread. Great story.

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what is more troublesome is when a brother who is a clinical psychologist didn't pick up any slight hint of imminent suicide.

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considering how the brother's wife turned out, perhaps a trend ...

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In my view Matteo's case is clinical depression, possibly due to abandonment issues when he was a child (Nicola mentions to his mom later in the movie that she took better care of her students than her children).

I believe if Mirella mentioned to Matteo about the child, he would not have killed himself.

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