The mystery of Matteo
What is the deal with Matteo? He was so sad and handsome. Gabriella in "It does Italian Cinema Proud" mentions Matteo's "desperate need for rules are a tragic consequence of an ancient wound". What is this ancient wound?
shareWhat is the deal with Matteo? He was so sad and handsome. Gabriella in "It does Italian Cinema Proud" mentions Matteo's "desperate need for rules are a tragic consequence of an ancient wound". What is this ancient wound?
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It is hard to accept but Matteo is just a person who gets irritated by everything and everyone. He can't understand why people can get happy with little things ( the scene on new years-eve is a good example i guess, matteo will never get excited in a game ( poker ) with people, he likes to observe them, see how they react. And i think when you observe to much like matteo everything becomes negative.
I think a lot of people have feelings like matteo, but often a shorter period and less extreme, when it gets to extreme it drives you to suicide i guess.
so i don't think the cause is an ancient wound, matteo's life was well organised he was a good student but it's naive to think that the things mentioned are a certainty for a happy life. Not even love could save Matteo so.
What i find strange is matteo's choice to become a policemen. a lot of people say it's because matteo needs rules but i don't agree. Matteo needs rules made by himself to be happy not by others. i see him more as a writer or something like that because he only wants people around when he wants it not when others want to be with him. he seems a little bit autistic.
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I thought that maybe his sexuality troubled him. Maybe (Or maybe not) he was bisexual (Or something unusual like that). For example, the gender of the "girl" he was with in the car (The one who gave him the necklace) is somewhat questionable (I know, the actress is female, but her character looked transgendered). Furthermore, he never dated (That we're told) before he met Mirella, not necessarly making him gay, but it suggests a certain sexual confusion on his part.
On a related note: Appearently, the director never told the actor who portrayed Matteo what his motivation was. He just gave him specific directions, suggesting that he purposefully made Matteo's frustration open-ended.
I think that he was clinically depressed and I also thought he was gay. Near the beginning of the film one of his parents (I think both of them at some point)is asking him why he doesn't have girls around- saying he needs to find a girl. He is never shown as having interest in a woman, except for Mirella, and with her he seems conflicted about it. I definitely thought the prostitute he picked up near the end was supposed to be a man, as well. It seemed that he wasn't comfortable with his sexuality, had untreated depression, and constantly felt trapped. Pretty sad story.
shareHe isn't gay. Go to the official site : the director explains he fell in love with Giulia. He says : "He (matteo) falls in love with Giorgia and loses her because of his shyness, because he's afraid of dealing with a relationship that will be difficult". Read it on
http://www.viipillars.com/thebestofyouth/lamegliogioventu/production2.htm
Maybe he's bi, but he's not purely gay.
He's not sick either : his problem is that he doesn't know what his actual problem is !
Share opinions but don't make war !
Actually it's Giorgia he falls in love with, not Giulia. I think his sexuality is still ambiguous but not anymore so than his ambiguity about other aspects of his life.
shareFalling in love with Giorgia and then Mirella is completely independent of whether or not Matteo is gay (which, I think the movie makes pretty clear, he is).
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I think people like jumping to conclusions on a person's sexuality or perhaps homosexuality as the cause of his heterosexual relationship-mishaps. True, Matteo was never shown having an intimate relationship w/ a woman but this does not imply homosexuality/bisexuality at all. He seems troubled by many things, I believe the 2nd poster has it spot on regarding Matteo. You will notice that Matteo has issues w/ intimacy, so it isn't surprising he has a problem expressing himself romantically as it is a very intimate relationship. & despite his confident exterior he seems to be very insecure & unsure about himself, he's never able to make the first move, notice that it was the girl who made all the moves on him, he simply responded. But even then, he couldn't even follow through, Matteo's issues is deeper than mere homosexuality/bisexuality, he was a heterosexual man w/ relationship issues as well as many others. Also, it's my understanding that he finally did find that special something w/ the girl, but for many implied/unknown reasons he just couldn't bring himself to make that step w/ her, he was afraid of many things we're just not privy to.
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You had yourself a vision.
I had the same impression. I presumed he was probably gay but obviously being macho, couldn't really face the reality of that and joined army; police etc because he needed strict rules to adhere to and to distract him from thinking about himself... if i'm making sense;)
shareGood point regarding the sexuality. The prostitute he picks up was definitely intended to be trans-gendered.
Also just before he is about to make love to Mirella, he takes a break to go to the phonebooth, it felt like that could have been his first sexual experience and he seemed very conflicted.
It all goes back to Giorgia, to the scene where Matteo picks her up from the hospital before the trip with Nicola. It's clear that he does not have any consideration for rules/certain conventions, he does not want to obey them, he takes her just like that...without thinking of the implications of his act. Later Giorgia is taken from them by the police - there is a sure correlation between this and his sudden decision to join the army. He is extremely intelligent, but can't accept any kind of compromise..he needs to be in total control, he is unable to share, to open up or to get intimate with someone because then he loses control...hence his choice for prostitutes - those are relationships that he can control - Mirella is shut out when they get close...when they first meet, he is not even giving her his real name...he can't thank his mother for caring for his friend, can't say goodby to his dying father, etc. He points it out to Mirelle during their fight at the police station, that he is the one who makes the rules...I think his suicide is the final expression of that, is a response to Mirella, to his bigger sister, to everybody, his ultimate act of control. Why he is like that, why is he missing that something that would connect him to the rest of his family, to the rest of his world, I don't know--some people are like that, my father was like that, he committed suicide exactly 20 years ago, and when I see a movie with a suicide scene in it, it turns me upside-down, those final moments before...I just want to be there
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I see the validity of your questions, but I don't think that there is a total contradiction...I just remembered the scene of his exam, he suddenly decides to quit school, because he entered in a disagreement with the prof, he says something like "i don't feel good here anymore"...his decision to join the army can be viewed as an act of control, even if it means that he would implicitly lose that control...which is not exactly the case, because he is still able to physically hurt people/beat them up etc...it has something illogical to it, as the whole character has a mystery and a charisma that are hard to understand... he is maybe the only character in the movie who is not explaining himself verbally in a direct way at all...when he wants to, or feels liek, he can't, he is not given the chance (in his last scenes with Nicola, when he calls Mirella, when Giovanna leaves him after her short visit at his newly rented apart.) Everybody else is "out there", fighting for something, living for an ideal, taking part in the transforming Ital. society -while Matteo is the hidden persona (his picture, which became the poster for the exhibition captures this trait), but he is governing all others' life on an elementary basis - the father's, the mother's, Mirella, even Nicola and Mirella are his "product" - he has the control, even if he seemed to gave that up by chosing the police and finally, chosing death.
shareYou get it!! That's exactly the problem with Matteo... It all started with Giorgia you are right! Giorgia is the link of all this story for every member of the familly. She is the most important character of the movie (eventhough you may not feel like this the first time you see it). On the french and italian picture of the movie there is a picture of Giorgia... I think it's on purpose.
But to go back on Matteo story, i think you said everything that has to be said. Good job. (sorry about your father)
You opened up an alley for my view of Matteo's suicide. Honestly, Matteo is one of the few characters in cinema who I had a really hard time of understanding. It's crazy when I say that I so desperately wanted to understand him...and perhaps this need to understand has to do with how tragic his character was. The film didn't start with his character till he was in his 20s, so Matteo's trouble could've existed way before that. But I think the moment that first changed him was when he was taking the exam. The exam wasn't some multiple choice, the questions the TA asked could've had subjective answers. So Matteo answered them in his opinion - which were rejected by the TA, who represented the view of Italy at the time. Matteo didn't agree and walked out. Then you have Giorgia. Matteo tried so hard to protect her, and ultimately failed - again losing to society. I think his decision to join the army was to have a place in society, to give a part of himself to Italy, hoping he can coexist with the system. Even then, it ultimately failed when Matteo kept having those transfers because of his inability to manager his anger. He always tried to do the right thing on his own terms, which the system never agreed with - the ultimate rejection. He's constantly in battle with society because it doesn't comply with his beliefs and is unwilling to accept them - thus everything he does in his environment fails. And during New Years, when he saw his family, he felt so out of place because they were managing their lives well in a society that's giving him a hard time, that disagrees with everything he does. He felt like the world was against him. The only person who he felt understood him best and accepted him for him was Mirella...so he tries to call her before his suicide attempt, and when she didn't pick up, he thought he lost yet another battle. It's really difficult to explain Matteo, and I'm not even close to describe who he was. But I think the picture on the photography exhibit poster represented who Matteo was the best. One eye was in the shadow created by his hand, while the other eye was lit by sunlight - the Matteo people saw and admired. His tragedy lies in the fact that he escaped his problems through death, that he failed to fight against his own demons.
sharePLEASE write "SPOILER" on your threads if they have one! I am half way through this series, and now I learned about Matteo's suicide to come.
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<<Or would you feel more at ease with blaming other people for your own stupid choices?>>
Why so hostile?
By the way, you're right--I shouldn't assume it's safe to read posts about a film's plot if I don't want to know what happens.
I just think you might have made your point in a more civil, less attacking way.
You're right and I'm sorry. I deleted it soon after writing it and wonder how you could even have managed to read it - - IMDb e-mail maybe?
As to the explanation you asked for: most probably I didn't function well that day.
I was fed up with soap lovers filling the comments section and boards for this film, acting like they understand anything about cinema and shouting how great this film factually is, instead of stating how much they like it (which would have been great).
Well-developed thoughts and insightful comments against this film are drowned inbetween arrogant underdog (sic) overshouting like "People who don't like it don't understand how great it is. This film is PERFECT!!!!!" with little arguments to back up the claims.
The sad background is that some 10 to 15 years ago, IMDb was inhabitated by knowledgeable film lovers (AFAIK), but since then seems to have declined to a forum for 12 year olds and nitwits. I tend to get irritated more easily these days. Mind you, that's wrong, and I try not to, but this text was about explaining.
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PS
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I sincerely appreciate your apology.
I have learned (don't ask me how) that it often pays to wait a few minutes before clicking on "Post Reply" or "Send"!
As for how I got to read your reply to me, there was no content to the email I got from IMDB, just notification and a link, so I suspect that email got to me before the delete went through on the board.
I accept your offer of a virtual beer.
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I think you are completely right.
shareI like your interpretation of Matteo, I see that in him as well but you've expressed it better than I ever will.
I had a weird dream last night...
You had yourself a vision.
I am so sorry for disturbing you with this matter, but I do hope you reply. I am so like Matteo it's scary. It's not that I like to be alone but I get intensely nervous when I am out of control. Just like Matteo I have an artistic soul, but I have chosen a maritime education for several reasons: a need for rules, a closed environment which is controllable (except for the sea) and an impossibility to run away. In the interview with the director he says that Matteo hasn't grown up. I think I recognize that as well: I flunked university, have been unemployed for a very long time, while I used to be a very good student in highschool. It has to do with stress. Matteo is such a control freak, and people like us avoid opposite situations. I am not gay, but I flirt with homosexuals because I do not have to prove anything! While when I really see a girl I like, I spoil my pants and no way I am opening myself up. Psycho-analytically I do not know what's the origin. My great-grand-father had it as well: he had OCD and they gave him a lobotomy. The whole nature-nurture debate is not really relevant because there's only one cure it seems nowadays: meds. With all their negative side-effects. Has it something to do with the mother, the father, I do not know, but just like Matteo I am very very cold towards my mother, my father on the other hand is kind of a Tony Soprano: he has swings of binge-drinking, gambling, ... And my mom has Stockholm-syndrome. Sh*t, I do not know why I am so exhibitionistic, I guess I am looking for advice, because I can tell you this: I act, feel, think like Matteo, but why, and how to change it, I have absolutely no clue. But I am tired of running, or lying. There's however one difference: unlike Matteo I can cling to a person I love that I smother her and she runs away. I guess they sense that they have to save me too much, and be too much of a mother.
I am sorry for the readers that it's all so selfish and this maybe is not the place, but on the other hand, what is then the place, huh: nothing has changed me so much as going to Congo, Africa for three weeks, more than ten years of meds and councelling. That is the harsh truth: in the end you have to find your own answers I guess.
I hope you are doing better now.
shareI am coping, thank you. But if you want to see the real Matteo: check out Neil in the docu 7Up: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0058578/
Kind regards!
Best post on this board. Very comprehensive.
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I'm not specifically sure why Matteo is disturbed as he is. He is supposed to be a sort of mystery. I just think he's one of those people that is unsettled with the world and life in general. Nicola's description of Matteo as being similar to Achilles was really quite accurate. Why was Achilles so angry? I don't know, he just was.
I think the "ancient wound" was his inability to save Giorgia. He wanted to do something right, and his failure left him angry at the world and everybody within it. Whereas Nicola seems to love life and the idea of freedom and love, Matteo just can't seem to get a grasp on it all. He feels a need for order and rules, but ultimately Matteo cannot bear living in a world where it is not always possible to do the right thing.
I agree-- it all starts with Giorgia. Matteo's and Nicola's attempts to free her, and their subsequent failure, forces a certain realization onto Matteo-- sort of an "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" mentality. I also think it's interesting (and certainly intentional on the filmmaker's part) that what befalls these characters is often caused by or reflective of post-war Italian history. It's as if there's all this potential for freedom, for beautiful, compassionate action, that's quashed by rigidity, systematization (embodied by the police who pick up Giorgia)... and it's from this that Matteo never rebounds. Sorry, it's late, not sure if I'm making any sense.
And after that, well, the game was mine.
-- Francis Begbie
Matteo Matteo...a mystery to us all. In his first scene sequence he reads to Giorgia this poem in the Library.
"A percentage of life is difficult to cover. It deals the cards to catch you weak, not to catch you in full force and it gives you 70 years to play. If you don’t manage in 70 years you never will. Leave the room if you lose, leave when your time is up. It is vile to sit down and fondle the cards."
In his New Years Eve visit with his family, they are indeed playing cards and he was losing once again. Perhaps a subconscious lifetime motto...or not.
They story tellers beckon us to search for the mystery through Matteo: "You have to find the soul. You have to look for it inside."
Then during Francesca's wedding they point out his obvious physical variation from the rest of the family. Blue eyes. I think our storytellers are pointing us toward the ancient mythologies in Matteo's character. Is his character god-like of ancient mythos? Yes, I think he is. The tragedy of his lifetime was that he could not help Giorgia or Italy or the world to see.
"Hector the honor of tears you shall have there where blood shed for your homeland became holy--Matteo instinctfully finishes Luigi's loss of his words-- tearful till the sun will shine upon human calamities."
Following Matteo's suicide, which by the way just looks like he impulsively left the room, his mother's student reads from Foscolo's poem To the Evening: "you force my thought to wander on paths towards the eternal void. All the while these evil times fleet by bearing away the horde of cares consuming time and me. As I contemplate your peace, the soul of the warrior roaring within me sleeps."
And then the finale, with Matteo's son Andrea completing Hector's circle where blood shed for your homeland became holy, tearful till the sun will shine upon human calamities.
“I watch the midnight sun sink towards the horizon, then it stops and doesn’t enter the sea...
These storytellers wanted you to think and they were brilliant at doing so.
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The mystery of Matteo? I really don't think that there is any mystery here.He is a hypersensitive human being. He seeks and loves the truth, fairness and honesty. He wants to correct the unfairness and wants to make just what is unjust. Example, when he knew Giorgia was receiving electric shock treatments and she couldn't defend herself from the pain she was being subjected to, he chose to stop the authorities from continuing this treatment. Another example, when the wealthy club owner was using his impoverished employee to sell drugs in his establishment, Matteo saw through him (club owner) and knew the poor immigrant was being used/punished by a system that couldn't prove it was the club owner behind the drug dealing. He simply wanted to make a difference for the good in a ultra corrupt and selfish world. He was not one to use people and when he realized that he hurt Mirella by initiating a relationship with her, and that "in life you can't close a chapter, as you can in a book", he totally went against his fiber (that of being just, fair and not usurping another human being).
shareI agree... he's hypersensitive. he gets it about other people, possibly too much. Nicola is much more able to let things go, to stay grounded and just go on...
and Matteo seeks control even more so... but, why is he so angry? i guess he's always frustrated. can't deal with the imperfections of life. can't roll with the punches. the army is a nice defined artificial environment, but messy "real" life keeps creeping in...
what's with the necklace he gives Mirella?
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Oh, perhaps I'm a sentimental fool, but I interpreted the necklace a little moer sweetly. The trannie hooker (not just suspiciously mannish - obviously mannish) gives the necklace to Matteo saying it's for his girl. When Mirella finds it, he has plenty of choices what to say - but he chooses to say it's for her, "his girl." It's Matteo consciously trying to make a step towards a positive relationship, trying to respond to the open and effusive nature of Mirella.
And touchingly, she's wearing the necklace in the scene in the police station where she confronts him.
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I think Matteo visits the prostitutes because it's sex with someone you have no need to become emotionally involved with. I don't think it's that sex is, in his eyes, some horrible impure experience for the woman. I think he can't risk emotional involvement, or doesn't know how to make it work.
Look at everything else he does in his time with Mirella that is a tactic to pull away from her, to keep some distance between them - he lies about his name, his occupation, making a phone call, leaving town on business. But Mirella is more open and expressive and loving than even Matteo's defenses, and he can't resist sharing the apple with her, or kissing her. I think it's genuine when he gives her the necklace - it's for "his girl."
But we watch him drive by her on the night of their date (like he drove by his dying father) and know that he's pulling away again. The nadir comes on New Year's Eve when she discovers his lies and he figures he's ruined everything beyond repair. Because even though they fight at the police station, Matteo makes for him what is an enormous step and actually phones her. We've seen him lie and pretend to phone people twice before to pull out of what should be pleasant situations - in the car with Mirella and at the family party. This time he actually makes the call - but can't say anything. And that is a final disappointment for him that evening - he can't bring real criminals to justice, he can't enjoy his family, he can't even speak to the girl he lied to - and he's totally isolated, watching TV while the city around him celebrates. And we all know where it goes from there.
Oh, and as to other lies Matteo could have told Mirella about the necklace...there's plenty! (I mean, where did he get civil engineer from?) It's my sister's, an ex-girlfriend's, a trannie hooker's, I don't know this isn't my car...and so on.
Also, people from Mediterranean countries are free to correct me, but I was under the impression that transexual/transvetite prostitutes were pretty common there - or so I've heard. And learned from Almodovar.
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It is Stefano Rulli's son Matteo who is autistic - he made a documentary about it:
http://imdb.com/title/tt0483319/
And I believe the two writers had previously worked on a film or documentary about mental health in Italy - essentially Nicola's early work of taking the ill out of asylums and not treating them like prisoners - so this is an area they are familiar with. They may have had specific mental illnesses in mind - or maybe it was just the behaviors and no particular diagnosis.
I think that is what is so intiguing about Matteo - and what is remarkable about Alessio Boni's performance. He does a fantastic job of showing us what Matteo feels, and making him real, but at no point did I ever assume that I knew just what Matteo was thinking. There are elements of depression, the isolation of autism, but I don't think that the writers, director or Boni had any one label in mind...
Also, I don't think Giulia was clinically depressed - I think revolutionaries are generally an irritable moody group.
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The opinion I have about Matteo is simply that he is deeply troubled by the idea, and the painful reality, of losing the people he loves or has grown to love. At the beginning he seems detached by everything and everyone around him, but, do you recall how he reacts to his father's death? Or the the scene where his friend gets brutally beaten by rioters in Turin? Do you recall how he turns around to charge the protesters alone by facing them all sigle handedly? You can master that type of courage only when someone you deeply care for is in danger. These few scenes I believe outline very efficiently the type of turmoil he is victim of: he never really lets himself go because Matteo loathes the idea of losing someone he deeply cares for: like what happen to Giorgia, and his father, and, finally, Mirella. So, instead of facing the pain of loss, Matteo choses to keep his emotions at bay, a dramatic and often, totally unrealistic, unfeasable solution.
Fianally I wish to say that the theme of homosexuality has got absolutely nothing to do with Matteo's character.
excellent analyses all around! I agree with all interpretations here.
here's my two-cents -- from the "Is Matteo gay?" thread.
I never thought of Matteo as gay or even bisexual -- that is, until he picked up the transexual prostitute. Even then, I think that he/she was merely another transient Matteo picked up for quick, committment-free sex.
Matteo's staring at the stripper on TV probably hints at a propensity for deviant sexual acts. He turns away in shame because he tries to repress perhaps within himself any sexual thoughts at all. The lover of literature and lofty poetry is beyond such vile earthly pursuits.
As for that scene in which he stands in the phone booth, I don't think it's because he doesn't know what to do sexually with a woman [ridiculous], but rather because for once he finally has feelings for someone again after Giorgia, and he's afraid to be rejected again. Should he try once more and throw himself out there again, be ready to be vulnerable, to be committed to someone? That's his real dilemma.
As others have pointed out though, to try and rationalize and reduce the depth of his pain and suffering through sexuality alone is too petty.
Matteo cannot commit. He cannot commit to anything or anyone. He must walk away before "it" threatens to commandeer his life.
He is a Lone Wolf.
Some people are just born with that personality type. He's not as well-adjusted as others and therefore, he's "strange". He goes against the grain and admires a third-rate poet, "an imitator" who "damns his mother and father"... therefore he is "strange". His father and mother don't understand him... he is "strange".
Some people are just ill-equipped to deal with all that a relationship entails. The rapport between individuals that many of us take for granted is a daunting proposition to many.
In short, Matteo is what Nicola is not, and he envies that in his brother to the degree of adopting his name.
Nicola is the example of a man fulfilled. He can adapt to any situation and has, as his Professor puts it, the gift of empathy, he sympathizes and understands people the way Matteo cannot. Children, men, women... all are at ease around him. He knows how to relate.
Matteo is also someone under tremendous pressure to excel and meet everyone's expectations. That scene in which his mother shows him his report card with the straight A's on New Year's is telling. "A. A. A. A... you were the best..."
"- yes... I was the best." Also, Nicola and everyone expected him to get "A+" Against all odds, he flunked his exams -- deliberately so, by choosing not to stick to the subject at hand. He would not subscribe to the norms. Not anymore. He would not let his sister "judge and pass sentence". He would not let her say "big-sister" things. He would carve his own path alone.
I agree with one of the posts here however that said that Matteo's character needed more exploration, he was kind of shortchanged at the expense of Nicola as the movie went on and it seemed odd that his sexual side isn't explored more often.
Finally, some people here on this thread seem to equate homosexuality with "self-loathing" and god knows what other ailments or diseases. That is offensive. Pray tell, what are the symptoms associated with heterosexuality?
And someone asked why there was so much reference to homosexuality in the film if it wasn't pertinent to the matters at hand. Isn't homosexuality a reality of life? Are heterosexuals precluded from addressing homosexuality on any level or vice versa?
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<<homosexuality with "self-loathing" and god knows what other ailments or diseases. That is offensive.>>
It is indeed offensive if it is considered endemic to being gay. But if one grows up in a homophobic world, and experiences homosexual feelings or desires, then "self-loathing" can occur--isn't that, at least in part, what internalized homophobia is? Or why there are suicides by gay teens? Of course, the responsibility must lie with the homophobic society, not the individual.
As for <<the symptoms associated with heterosexuality>>--well, I suspect most of them are caused by homophobia!
Matteo was the type of person who could never understand why everyone around him was happy. He just couldn't relate to people.
At the party at his mother's place he felt out of place and that's why he decided to leave. That's also why he gave Mirella her brother's name instead of his own.
Even when he found someone who genuinely liked him he kept her at a distance because he was afraid he would be disappointed when he lost her.
He always tried to do things to fit in, but he wasn't able to, which is why his story was so sad.
I think Matteo is very easy to understand. Then again, maybe thats because I feel a lot like him.
Everyone around him acomplish things in their lifes that are important, such as family and children.
At New Years Eve he feels completely out of place among his family, because they have everything and he have acomplished nothing.
He is unmarried and have no children to enjoy. He is not part of their world. He dosnt like to be there because it reminds him of all the things he is not.
He did acomplish great things in school. But maybe at the expense of the things that really mattered.
Nobody mentioned all the books in his apartment. I think he reads books to escape. To try and escape into another world.
He is afraid of meeting his father. Maybe because he dosnt feel worthy as he has acomplished nothing.
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Here is how I see it:
Matteo is not gay. He is just an unfathomably complex person. He is the way that we see him in the film: moving to Rome and not calling his parents, resisting the possibility to fall in love with someone, leaving on the train instead of going on the trip, etc. etc. etc., because he doesn't understand his situation. He is essentially in a fish out of water type of scenario but the scenario or situation in his case just happens to be LIFE. He suffers from extreme existential angst every moment of every day and he doesn't understand and this is why he never can connect with anybody.
Please, if you got the impression that he was gay, watch the film again. The character of Matteo and the emotional weight of his suicide are so much more fulfilling if you understand his character cannot be explained away by saying something as simple as the fact that he is "gay."
His ambivalence toward sexuality is not indicative of a skewed orientation but rather is just a magnification of ONE aspect of human existence that he doesn't understand. Not a lot of people will sit around an analyze sex for what it is, a primal act that our lives are basically built around with relationships and ultimately perpetuation of our gene pool. For Matteo, however, such a heavy thought would just be boiling under the surface constantly, like any other person thinking "What should I have for lunch," or "I cannot WAIT until this week is over." Matteo's thoughts were unrelentingly dark and even something so pleasurable and simply executed as an act of sexuality were too much for him to comprehend.
Saying that he is gay would not only be incorrect in my opinion but would also horribly undermine the importance of his character.
Last Movie Seen: The Best of Youth - 10/10
Matteo fought a constant battle between the internal and the external. His suicide was triggered by Mirella telling him that 'you don't choose'. He chooses to defy her, acknowledging his own potential as a reactant or revolutionary, and therefore making his presence felt in this external society by choosing to violently end his own life. We see that Matteo has a great respect for the dead in his fierce protection of the corpse in the Sicilian abattoir murder. He wishes to elevate himself to this level, and perhaps hopes to recognise this same respect from those who he so desperately seeks attention and love.
One second he shuts the windows to the celebrations of the world outside, as he would have typically shut society out for the rest of his life. However, the thought of 'choice' enters his mind at this point and he decides to sacrifice himself to 'the outside', leaving through the window and over the balcony, leaving a potent silence under the shadow of the vacuous firework display. This represents both his final decision on where he stands on interior vs. exterior, and figuratively represents one final physical push to make an impression on the outside world.
'Happiness consists in being able to tell the truth without ever hurting anyone.'
I agree with you, M UFO. Matteo is just unremittingly aware of dangling out there on the existential limb, a condition that most functional people can ignore (most of the time). The futility of life seems to have occurred to Matteo at a very, unfairly, young age. He's too damn smart for his own good. Plus he's clinically, chronically, depressed; this is not fundamentally a reactive condition, but an inborn organic one. Of course it is exacerbated by the things that happen to him, and by the consequences of the things that he does; by his failures and by the unfairness and irreconcilable nature of life; by his losses (of the young soldier, his friend killed by terrorists; by his loss of the young girl he tries to save).
But Matteo's clinical depression keeps him from doing the usual, psychologically self-preserving, papering-over (with the day-to-day trivial fiction of "normal" life) of the yawning abyss. Matteo keeps looking down, and for him there is nothing under him but emptiness. It's why he walks out on his exams. It's why he joins the regimented life of the police force where decisions are not his, and where maybe he'll have the pleasure of dying young. It's why he can't/won't commit to an intimate relationship with another person or to the terror of seeing a child of his own endure what he is enduring (life, that is). It's why he slips over the edge into the fireworks.
Matteo observes people like his brother, Nicola, enjoying life; he knows intellectually that this is possible. But Matteo is Hamlet. He has lost all his mirth-- and he didn't have all that much to lose. The excellent canopy, for poor Matteo, appears no other thing than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors -- even the canopy of sunny Sicily, even in the company of a sunny woman whom Matteo can see should make him happy -- but Matteo lacks the capacity for joy.
Poor man. And psychiatrist Nicola misses the obvious diagnosis, because Nicola sees Matteo as his brilliant quirky brother, not as a patient. Poor Nicola. Matteo needed Welbutrin. Zoloft. Something to blur his too-clear vision.
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Avoidant Personality Disorder. The lonely loner. He pushes Mirella away because he is afraid of opening himself to her but in reality he craves a real relationship. It is a fear of rejection or ridicule that drives him into a self-imposed isolation. His being alone on New Years Eve and watching people enjoying themselves on TV, even seeing his family enjoying themselves together while he passively observed, that drove home his loneliness. He felt that if this is all his life would be like, why go any further?
Any moments where he presented an outgoing side (like at the wedding where his sister wanted to show him off to her friends) was a facade and went against his true nature; notice his reluctance in that scene. He always gravitated towards being by himself in any situation rather than becoming part of the group, such as when he joined the army and the other recruits played a practical joke on him (his extreme hostility to the prank could have been an instinctive reflex to a perceived rejection; he felt they were ganging up on him and his defenses instantly went up) or again, on New Years Eve when he mostly observed his family enjoying themselves rather than fully participating in it himself. This goes well beyond mere introversion.
Avoidant Personality Disorder is brought on by a perceived or real rejection by peers or parents at a young age. I recall at one point in the movie where Matteo's mother was apologetic about not being much of a mother for him (though I could be mistaken about this, its been a while since I've seen the movie). Although she seemed warm to him in the movie when he was an adult, if she was cool to him as a child then the damage would have been done.
Avoidant Personality Disorder. The lonely loner. He pushes Mirella away because he is afraid of opening himself to her but in reality he craves a real relationship. It is a fear of rejection or ridicule that drives him into a self-imposed isolation. His being alone on New Years Eve and watching people enjoying themselves on TV, even seeing his family enjoying themselves together while he passively observed, that drove home his loneliness. He felt that if this is all his life would be like, why go any further?
Any moments where he presented an outgoing side (like at the wedding where his sister wanted to show him off to her friends) was a facade and went against his true nature; notice his reluctance in that scene. He always gravitated towards being by himself in any situation rather than becoming part of the group, such as when he joined the army and the other recruits played a practical joke on him (his extreme hostility to the prank could have been an instinctive reflex to a perceived rejection; he felt they were ganging up on him and his defenses instantly went up) or again, on New Years Eve when he mostly observed his family enjoying themselves rather than fully participating in it himself. This goes well beyond mere introversion.
Avoidant Personality Disorder is brought on by a perceived or real rejection by peers or parents at a young age. I recall at one point in the movie where Matteo's mother was apologetic about not being much of a mother for him (though I could be mistaken about this, its been a while since I've seen the movie). Although she seemed warm to him in the movie when he was an adult, if she was cool to him as a child then the damage would have been done.
Agreed, nice post.
The irony in the movie is that his brother is the medical specialist, who would have been most qualified to see his brother's condition. I have only seen the movie once, and due to its length cannot remember much detail. On viewing again I shall watch for Nicola's appreciation of what is happening.
I think Matteo was unlable to feel. That's all and that why he did what he did.
sharecolbec and other people said that since Nicola was the psychiatrist, he should've seen. He does come out and say that afterwards when he's talking with his sister. He says something like, "I should've been the one to understand,"
I want to be the hero of the day
WOW, I very much empathized w/ Matteo & I just loved your post!
I had a weird dream last night...
You had yourself a vision.
Unfortunately I didn't read past the first page so forgive me if I repeat anything. I was not very happy with the way Matteo's character left...it just wasn't very plausible to me, there was so much he could've worked out.
Also I do think Gieorgia is an important part of his character. Perhaps he joined the army and wanted to become a police officer because he couldn't prevent the police taking her away at the train station. He felt powerless at that moment and wanted to avoid that in the future. Matteo I really had hopes for, I think the writers could've done so much better. Either way, he's an intriguing character.
Matteo is Don Quixote, his mind befuddled by too much literature and set on a career as a knight in shining armor. Nicola is sort of recruited as his Sancho Pansa in the initial episode which brilliantly sets the tone for the whole series. He is more down to earth than his brother and set on finding solutions for the problems he perceives.
How's that for an explanation? Read Cervantes - it is the greatest study of man's psyche of all times!
Incidentally, I suppose poor Georgia is meant to symbolise Italy: beautiful, often mistreated and quite mad.
I also see Matteo as an idealistic person that he is a Holden Caulfield type of character from "The Catcher in the Rye". His ideal world is too perfect for that everything he sees disturbed him. I guess that's why he can't love other women, but that he can love Giorgia because he sees the purity and the innocence in Giorgia. Thus he wanted to save Giorgia, like Holden Caulfield wanted to save his sister Phoebe from the corrupted world.
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Like some and not like some i never got a gay or bi sexual vibe or feel about Matteo
i read/skim read all of the comments so far and most have made me think but what i mostly feel about Matteo is that in a way he felt like he had to live up to Nicola... i dont quite remember the first episode and what it was like when he was younger... but in a later episode nicola says to his mother on the boat how he was jealous not of his siblings but of her students..maybe Matteo felt jealous or didnt get enough love from his mother...
and when he joins the army, in the scene where his friend gets hurt he ask someone else is everyone here and safe but he feels bad as the only person he didnt look out for was his friend... then later on we see his friend in a wheel chair but he still seems happy and positive about life...
i didnt know if his mother was cold towards him before his father died but i felt as a result of that she wondered why Matteo didnt visit.
i also didnt really think that he had sex with that person/prostitute it was more like he was giving someone a lift.. either from the police station or wherever..
another reason why i felt he looked up to Nicola was because he used his name ..perhaps feeling Nicola was a better person who he wished he could be like... and when Mirella meet the real Nicola they had an instant connection (even though he did with most women) Mirella.. seemed to look at him like, this was the man i imagined Matteo to be like....
this didnt really say much about the mystery of Matteo more rambling observations......
Matteo is just unremittingly aware of dangling out there on the existential limb, a condition that most functional people can ignore (most of the time). The futility of life seems to have occurred to Matteo at a very, unfairly, young age. He's too damn smart for his own good. Plus he's clinically, chronically, depressed; this is not fundamentally a reactive condition, but an inborn organic one. Of course it is exacerbated by the things that happen to him, and by the consequences of the things that he does; by his failures and by the unfairness and irreconcilable nature of life; by his losses (of the young soldier, his friend killed by terrorists; by his loss of the young girl he tries to save). But the violent rages? The death-defying maniac behind the wheel? The avoidance of the company of others, even loved ones? Chronic depression talking.
Matteo's clinical depression keeps him from doing the usual, psychologically self-preserving, papering-over (with the day-to-day trivial fiction of "normal" life) of the yawning abyss. Matteo keeps looking down, and for him there is nothing underneath but emptiness. It's why he walks out on his exams. It's why he joins the regimented life of the police force where decisions are not his, and where maybe he'll have the pleasure of dying young. It's why he can't/won't commit to an intimate relationship with another person or to the terror of seeing a child of his own endure what he is enduring (life, that is). It's why he slips over the edge into the fireworks.
Matteo observes people like his brother, Nicola, enjoying life; he knows intellectually that this is possible. But Matteo is Hamlet. He has lost all his mirth-- and he didn't have all that much to lose. This most excellent canopy, for poor Matteo, appears no other thing than a foul and pestilent congregation of vapors -- even the canopy of sunny Sicily, even in the company of a sunny woman whom Matteo can see should make him happy -- but Matteo lacks the capacity for joy.
Poor man. And psychiatrist Nicola misses the obvious diagnosis, because Nicola sees Matteo as his brilliant quirky brother, not as a patient. Poor Nicola. Matteo needed Welbutrin. Zoloft. Something to blur his too-clear vision.