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Why don't many people like this film?


I've been starting to wonder about this, because I watched The Rise of Evil a few weeks ago and I liked it a lot. I've been seeing complaints on here that it portrays Hitler as a two-dimensional character, but how does anyone know what Hitler was really like? I don't think anyone can criticise this film for that, because no one here has ever met Hitler! (I don't think so, at least...)

And as for the apparent historical errors - don't forget that this is a film, it's not real life. If someone wants to change something that happened, then that's fine - if you're aware that it's historically inaccurate, at least. They might not necessarily be mistakes, just intended differences from what really happened...

Can I have some opinions from people who disliked this film? The main thing I want to know is why it is generally disliked.

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Usually when some movie is plain stupid or unrealistic people who like it just say "movies are movies" as an argument... is this really approvable? I think there should be some standards if movie is made about a real person who lived.

Why did the directer portray Hitler like a child who was just crazy for no reason?

The movie was either done quite childish minded or it was just ment to be propaganda.

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You wrote: "Why did the directer portray Hitler like a child who was just crazy for no reason?"

From the minute it was announced that this film was going to be made the protests started. Certain factions were concerned that it would be too realistic of a portrayal and Hitler would be shown as he really was in public: charming, charismatic and captivating. So they dumbed the picture down to basic elements: Hitler crazy. Nazis bad. See Dick and Jane run from crazy bad Nazis.

It is a shame the filmmakers wussed out like that. They could easily have shown Hitler's public side and then behind the scenes shown how quickly he could turn off the charm and become a raving lunatic. But that would require the audience to use their brains a little. Can't have audiences thinking too much during prime time. Spoils the sponsor's revenues. Must... consume... products... mmmmmmmmm... donuts.

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The Downfall was about the end of Hitler and his plans. The way I see it, though I might be wrong, is that in this movie Hitler was just getting started, he was learning how to do what it was he did. He was a different person than he was as he gained more and more supporters. People always change the ways in which they portray themselves.

In the 2nd DVD that came with this movie there's a documentary that pretty much captures Hitler as I saw in this movie. That kind of perplexes me as to why so many think the movie's makers made it badly incorrect. In his speeches in the documentary he seemed pretty much the same as he was protrayed in this movie.

Was Hitler even captured on camera at the end of his life? Forgive me if I seem ignorant, but I haven't watched all of Hitler a Career; I had to shave and I do that at my computer :) If he isn't captured on camera how does anyone know exactly how he was?

Okay, can someone tell me what was inaccurate? There's that part where he whips the dog in the trenches of WWI. The film makers said that they took liberties with that but showed a film where Hitler was trying to get his dog to come by his side to be petted but the dog is clearly afraid of him, and whoever knows dogs knows that a dog will only cower to its owner when they are beaten a lot. I was wondering why they didn't just do that later when he has a dog during the nazi movement. Reason is probably because at that time to movie's pace quickened to get to the end, so...

I liked this movie. I know a bit about the history, but we can always learn more, right? So, please, tell me what I've missed. Thank you.

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Was Hitler even captured on camera at the end of his life? Forgive me if I seem ignorant, but I haven't watched all of Hitler a Career; I had to shave and I do that at my computer :) If he isn't captured on camera how does anyone know exactly how he was?


There is an astonishing amount of film footage of Hitler, much in colour as well, through the entirety of his chancellorship, down to a matter of weeks before his death. Pre-war Germany had one of the world's strongest film industries which he invested a lot of money of and there was certainly no shortage of newsreel footage. If you watch any documentaries such as Hitler's Bodyguard you will see just how well documented he was.

but showed a film where Hitler was trying to get his dog to come by his side to be petted but the dog is clearly afraid of him, and whoever knows dogs knows that a dog will only cower to its owner when they are beaten a lot.


Do you know for sure that was his dog in the film? It's a popular piece of trivia that Hitler was an animal-lover as well as being very polite to his secretaries and his staff in general.

I suspect the problem is that you have too many paperclips up your nose

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The protests came from the Jewish group the ADL and the film makers gave in to their demands. The ADL were the ones who got "Evil" included in the title.

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The Original Poster is clueless, of course we know what Hitler was like, there are over a DOZEN memoirs available which are written by people who directly knew Hitler. Do I have to list them for you?

The memoirs of:


Albert Speer
Alfred Rosenberg
Joachim Von Ribbentrop
Otto Dietrich
Erich Kempka
Heinz Linge
Heinrich Hoffmann
Otto Wagener
Kurt Ludecke
Hans Baur
Paul Schmidt
Nicolaus Von Below
Christa Schroeder
Traudl Junge
Reinhard Spitzy
Hermann Giesler
August Kubizek
Leon Degrelle
Erich Von Manstein
Heinz Guderian
Wilhelm Keitel



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I did not like it either.
I think the first part was solid, but the second one was weak.
They fell into the same trap of many who did historical movies before them, and tried to wrap more stuff together they could handle.
The events of the years 1932 und 1933 were very complicated and I had the feeling, they did not put enough emphasis on the political intrigues that went on. That was better done in the first movie. Especially their version of the Reichstag fire and the "Enabling act" (or how its called in Englisch) were totally messed up.
Also, it was an odd choice to stick to the same main cast in the second part. The Hanfstaengls were not as important to the NSDAP as shown here. Same goes for Gerlich, it looks like he had in the hand to stop Hitler, which was totally out of the way after january 1933. I had the feeling, they should have thrown figures in the second part, which were more closely connected to Hitler. Hugenberg, the leader of the conservatives would have been a good choice, a powerful media mogul of the time who tried to outfox Hitler for four years. The Goebbels, who became kind of close friends to him after 1929; or Otto Braun, who was the most colourful leftist enemy of his before 1933.
The movie also had some odd casting choices. This may have been my spleen, but I like to have actors who resemble the real persons by look. This worked well with Strasser, Goebbels, von Papen here. Other did not come close, like Gerlich, Hess especially (who was still very young at the time) or the laughable portrayal at Hindenburg. The last was lacking also in accuracy. Hindenburg had at that time an iconic status as one of the major war heroes of world war I. No way anyone would have talked tongue-in-cheek to him like the style the conservatives do here, and Hitler would not have dared to backtalk to him like this.
Whenever he discussed things with Hindenburg, it has been reported that he tried to be extraordinarily obedient and charming.
That brings us to another point. They show Hitler as a very grim man, who practically ruled by force. I would not say that it is totally misleading to do so, but it also is more right for the first part. When Hitler learned that he could not take Germany by revolution, he got also more finesse in intrigue and rhetorical moves to outsmart the people he needed to get more power. A current biography calls him mainly an actor and he could also be very charming. The film also totally falls short his power at speeches, which was a main factor how he appealed to many people.
Carlyles acting style was ok, and I think he covered well the impulsive and sometimes also awkward sides of Hitler. It is hard, well, for any actor to stand against Bruno Ganz' version of Hitler in "Downfall".










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We instinctively dont like it because of Hitler. He was one of the most evil men ever to have lived.

I celebrate that the little pussy he was he shot himself in the end.

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