So what are the most disturbing and memorable images you've had of those anime features?
Preamble: I just rewatched 'Animatrix;' it's probably the third of fourth time I've watched. I can't believe I read all 19 pages of these comments, most of them from 10 years ago. But, some themes are timeless.
The topic: I think the most disturbing thing about 'The Second Renaissance' is that most of the viewers that have commented on here see these images and either consciously or subconsciously admit that this is a possible future for humanity, and that is a terrible thing to consider. This fact makes the various messages hit even harder; the impact is massive. My personal runner-up is the child playing in the snow, then running to his parents to see them turn into agents, and surprise: you are trapped in a machine goo pod with only this attractive Zion Archive UI avatar to comfort you. Bum deal, kid. And of course the analogies and nods to infamous massacres of wars past with brutal imagery reaches out and grabs the student of history.
Main topic aside, there's been a lot of great commentary in this thread:
- The comments about "they're only machines" and so on are chilling to me. It was only in the last century that mass exterminations were carried out on the justification of "the persons of religion X or race Y aren't really humans." There are the same arguments being casually tossed around in this thread, and that is as scary as any of the imagery in 'The Second Renaissance.' What is incredibly revealing are remarks about the woman being beaten, and then her flesh is ripped away to reveal a robotic carapace, and some commenters remark that they immediately lost their empathy. Those were particularly revealing remarks.
- "You don't feel bad when you kick a coke machine." Some people don't feel bad when they murder. What's your point? We are just starting to unlock the mysteries of the human brain, and our best guess is that it's a complicated array of many pattern recognition machines of various strengths [Kurzweil, 'How to Create a Mind'], albeit one composed of organic material--a few neurons and lots of water. I won't delve into esoteric matters of 'the soul' and what-not, needless to say, the human brain and a sufficiently advanced AI brain would have much in common, if they weren't in fact identical. So these remarks of "you don't feel bad when you kick a coke machine" hold zero weight with me.
- This is a possible future for humanity. Consider the pattern. Man dreamt of flight for tens of centuries; now you can travel from New York to London in a small portion of one day. Verne wrote about travel to the Moon. We did it. Billions of people across the globe can access the Internet and communicate nearly instantaneously with others. And we have written about AI, and made movies about AI. The probability that a machine intelligence that meets or exceeds that of a human being created in the next 50 years is probably 80%, or greater, in my opinion. With the benefit of ten years since the bulk of these comments were made, I can recall recent instances of Elon Musk (PayPal, Tesla, SpaceX) and Bill Gates warning us in the press about the potential (emphasis: potential) dangers of AI. When minds of this caliber offer warnings, we had best listen and take heed. This is to say nothing of the most meticulously constructed guard against humanity's demise at the hands of malevolent robots: Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics. Boom. Done.
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