He badmouthed the whole country after filming this movie. Here is the article;
http://jam.canoe.ca/Movies/Artists/D/Duvall_Robert/2003/02/11/pf-75811 6.html
Man this party is like an orgy at a campsite......its ***king in tents.
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jjj-jj, for someone who lives on the border you truly are ignorant of how involved both our countries are. If it were not for Canada, the US would be buying energy and resources for higher costs from more volatile markets. Did you know that Canada is the largest provider of eneregy to the US? We sell you more then what you buy from the Middle East. Yet no one down there ever believes me when I tell them.
In regards to Duvall's comments, he refuses to work outside of the US. If a movie can be made cheaper and better elswhere then it should be filmed elsewhere. To not follow that method is counter to the free market system. To buy only local is called protectionism, and its borderline communism.
Man this party is like an orgy at a campsite......its ***king in tents.
you say this:
"If a movie can be made cheaper and better elswhere then it should be filmed elsewhere. To not follow that method is counter to the free market system. To buy only local is called protectionism, and its borderline communism."
but on another board you start a thread titled:
"Another show filmed in Canada pretending to be elsewhere"
and in the comment say you refuse to watch on that basis.
so i have to conclude you just make up rationalizations as you go along. you seem like a smart guy, but you also seem full of shysse.
also - protectionism has very little to do with communism. protectionism does often, however, have something to do with socialism. which doesnt make it bad.
"protectionism does often, however, have something to do with socialism. which doesnt make it bad."
Anything associated with the disaster of socialism is bad. Socialism is a nice idea that appeals to the emotions, but it does not work. And no, the Scandinavian countries all have capitalist economies. Impose socialism on a population and the result will be nothing but misery.
When on the topic of European Socialism, it is always imperative to remind everyone that Europe benefits from American largesse. Meaning, you can experiment with socialist policies like free healthcare, when America provides the military defense of your entire continent. The US military yearly budget is what it is because of WWII and our commitments to 'keep the peace' of Europe.
So, the USA spends a trillion/year on defense of the Earth, so that Europe can brag about its 'free' healthcare systems and glorious socialism, that we essentially subsidize in various ways just through the benefit of our nuclear umbrella, so to speak. Canada benefits even more, as they are like the Toadie to Scut Farcas' bully in A Christmas Story.
Now, I know it's a laughable notion nowadays to consider what the USA does as 'keeping the peace', in fact it's simply untrue. But that's how we got where we are. American cities have fallen into disrepair and squalor so that Europe has been able to brag about all their glorious successful socialist countries, and call hard working American citizens providing that largesse as dumb and ignorant.
its borderline communism.
I can tell you right now that Robert Duvall is no way no how "borderline communism" - if anything he is much further from that; the way he votes and his politics pretty much prove that; he's certainly NOT a lefty-liberal communist like a lot of typical Hollywood actors and doesn't drink the Kool-Aid like they do in Hollywierd when it comes to this administration we have in our office right now, who btw I would consider more of a communist than Duvall. I've seen Duvall's contributions to certain politicians who don't believe in communism, and he is so NOT "borderline communism" - yes we have them in Hollywood but Duvall is not one of them.
"If it were not for the USA Canada would be thought of as being below Norway on the world stage."
Typical American ignorance and arrogance. Norway is in the top five countries in the world for most things, including standard of living and other indices. They are #1 on the HDI index and are way ahead of the US when it comes to per capita GDP.
Amerika, on the other hand, comes in slightly below Iran. Except in real terms Iran's probably got more money. And what does the US "add to the world fabric" anyway, apart from state-sponsored terrorism and mass murder?
You've collectively got away with your pig-ignorant disdain for other countries for long enough. The world is different now, and nobody likes you. Losers. The vast majority of people in the world would pick Canada over the US any day. You'd better get used to it, because that's how it's going to be.
Jingoistic pissing matches are so entertaining.
share>>> Norway is in the top five countries in the world for most things, including standard of living and other indices. They are #1 on the HDI index and are way ahead of the US when it comes to per capita GDP. Amerika, on the other hand, comes in slightly below Iran
per capita GDP:
1. World Bank (2005–11)
United States 48,112 2011
Iran 11,508 2009
2. IMF (2010–12)
United States 49,922 2012
Iran 13,127 2012
I cried because I had no shoes üntil I met a man with no sole. ~ Ancient Disco Proverb
The whole concept of metaphor has passed you by, right? Add ignorance, illiteracy and lack of imagination to poverty.
Another whiner about people slagging off america then. But why not? Most of the world hates you - what do you expect, endless love in return for endless murder and terrorism?
Get over yourselves and deal with it. It's a different world and you're no longer #1, losers.
>>> "Norway is in the top five countries in the world for most things, including standard of living and other indices. They are #1 on the HDI index and are way ahead of the US when it comes to per capita GDP. Amerika, on the other hand, comes in slightly below Iran."
I do not understand what it means to read the above paragraph metaphorically. Comparing countries' gdp's seems quite a literal topic to me.
If a country's gdp ranks in the top 10-15 countries of the world, what does it mean, metaphorically speaking, to state that their gdp is considerably lower than that? Where is the metaphor here? I believe you're misusing the word metaphor.
I do not understand your point regarding slagging off.
Also, whether most of the word hates or loves one is of little moment to me. I examine issues on their merit, not whether or not the majority holds one opinion or the other.
I am not American, BTW. I am a dual Canadian-Israeli citizen.
Finally, you seem to have serious rage control issues. One merely cites some stats challenging your post, and you react with vitriol. Your mind is not at peace.
I cried because I had no shoes üntil I met a man with no sole. ~ Ancient Disco Proverb
Let's try one more time. The reason it's a metaphor is because it's patently silly, yet even more true now, more than four years after that post, than it was then.
The US is busy circling the drain and showing on a daily basis why the country is not fit to be the world's global currency. Or would you argue with that as they are printing a trillion dollars a year from thin air?
The metaphor refers to any amount by which, given the state of the two countries, the opposite to which one might imagine is self-evident. The fact you felt it necessary to look up the relevant GDP figures is desperately anal.
It's kind of you to worry about my rage control issues, but I'm afraid you are as far away from the truth there as you could be; no such impulses were implied or evident. The vitriol, ironically, was used as a defence of Norway and Canada.
Having said that, I do get inordinately pissed off at people who attempt to patronise me. "Your mind is not at peace." Cheeky little bugger.
>>> The US is busy circling the drain and showing on a daily basis why the country is not fit to be the world's global currency. Or would you argue with that as they are printing a trillion dollars a year from thin air?
If you think that I have any disagreement with that, then you read way too much into my post.
I've read your explanation how you meant it as a metaphor. I still think you're really misusing the word metaphor. I think "ironic" or "sarcastic" or "facetious" would be fitting words, not metaphor.
From your post, it seemed to me that thought you really thought that US GDP per capita was only marginally higher than that of Iran, and I therefore wanted to challenge you on that. Nothing anal about that -- it's simply adducing evidence to support a point.
If you think that my lack of realization that you were being sarcastic is an indication that my level of intelligence is seriously lacking, that is of course your prerogative. I feel secure that I'm a reasonably intelligent person.
And even after your explanations of the metaphor, I still don't see what your point was in the Iran statement. More evidence of my obtuseness?
If you want to discuss issues with me, I'm more than willing. But to continue to discuss personality defects is not a productive use of our time.
I cried because I had no shoes üntil I met a man with no sole. ~ Ancient Disco Proverb
"If you think that I have any disagreement with that, then you read way too much into my post."
This is typical of what happens when you stick your oar in so long after the comment. I implied nothing of the sort, it's what we grammarians call a question, hence the closing question mark.
I have no idea now why I picked Iran. It's been well over four years and, frankly, who gives a tadpole's testicle?
"If you think that my lack of realization that you were being sarcastic is an indication that my level of intelligence is seriously lacking, that is of course your prerogative."
Again, this reading whatever you feel like into a post. I did not write that, neither did I imply it.
"If you want to discuss issues with me, I'm more than willing. But to continue to discuss personality defects is not a productive use of our time."
Certainly not of mine, and especially with someone with his kayak lodged firmly in his arse. Go find another four-year old throwaway comment and see how far you get with that. Eh?
"If you think that my lack of realization that you were being sarcastic is an indication that my level of intelligence is seriously lacking, that is of course your prerogative."
Again, this reading whatever you feel like into a post. I did not write that, neither did I imply it.
The whole concept of metaphor has passed you by, right? Add ignorance, illiteracy and lack of imagination to poverty.
I cried because I had no shoes üntil I met a man with no sole. ~ Ancient Disco Proverb
That was when I thought you were american, which race is expected to be thick.
BASTA!
Oh hell, learn to live with a little criticism, bla razan. With as much US bashing that comes out of your country, you lot have some coming back at you. Toughen up and quit whining.
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Canada is America's hat.And Florida is its wang!
He liked the mountains. The only thing he badmouthed was the local acting talent.
I think it's funny that one should compliment rather than criticize a region's acting talent to be allowed to travel or visit.
Does Canada have any concept of "freedom of expression" in their foundational beliefs?
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backwater? excuse me? i may not be Canadian, I'm an American girl all the way. but have you ever visited Canada? it's gorgeous! and i guess you'd LOVE to pay twice or thrice as much for prescription meds then you would in Canada didn't provide us with lower med prices. get off your high horse, buddy. you're the backwater one.
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can't comment on the meds...never really needed them so therefore (so far) never cared how much they may cost...that being said, i've seen pics of Alberta, and if i ever get the chance, i'm definately game for a trip into Canada...
Not a woman? Not a woman!?!?
Please, Canada is lucky. If the USA wasn't right next door, the Eskimos would take over the country with a few whalebone knives.
Canada is being overrun by 35-year-old Muslim men, who come there on a "student visa" and immediately get on unemployment. Then, they bring over 18 year-old burka-wearing brides, and refuse to assimilate. The Canadians can't/won't say a thing about it, because the French-Canadians play that same separatist card. The world expects nothing from Canada, so they can feel free to criticise the U.S. without ever having to do a thing themselves.
Canada is a de facto 51st state, and when Canadian actors come to the U.S., they stay. Not the other way around. Duvall did Canada a favor. Not the other way around.
i'm curious........... i'm an englishman and god knows how much crap my country has heaped on the world over the centuries, but to slag off a another country (in this case canada)that has in all probability not heaped as much crap on this world as the USA ( they do many great things also it must be said), is somewhat juvenile and ignorant. i have never been to canada, but know many that have and I've never heard a bad word and I definately intend to go one day and I have been to america on 5 occasions and thoroughly enjoyed it.
My advice is to just accept that all countries have their plus sides and negative sides as mine has both, and leave your idiotic comments to debates that actually matter.
See this is a perfect example of why the U.S. revolution took place in the first place. We wanted the freedom to leave our idiotic comments in debates that don't matter. The OP made a point that, if Canada weren't directly adjacent to and protected by the U.S. and the #1 supplier of oil and cheap pharmaceuticals and Molson, he would not be allowed to make under Greenland's rule.
By any chance do you live in London? Or, Londonistan, as it is known these days? Have fun whistling past the graveyard as the British Empire becomes part of the new caliphate. When the last binging chav has vomited his blood pudding through his glasgow smile, Jolly Olde won't be worth crying over.
rickyhatton, we are just having one off. Join in, its fun!;-) Personally, I'm from the U.S., but of Irish descent. So on rainy days when my DNA is activated, I do what all Irish do; stare out the window and drink, while wishing I was born English.
Actually no, he simply said "there are better actors in America". That is hard to argue with factually speaking. In terms of notoriety, grossing movies, awards, or whatever metric you use to measure, film talent is found mostly in the United States.
He went on to say he liked the area and it was beautiful.
And furthermore, the article even states he was professional enough to never let on any indication whatsoever that he was displeased. Props to him for that.
Costner and Duvall are perhaps two of the most polite and well-rounded members of Hollywood.
I agree with Robert Duvall 100%. He said it's a very beautiful area. I concur. I've always wanted to visit that part of the world. From Calgary to Banff and the region around there. Really gorgeous.
The rest of his statements I have no idea about. I'm not an actor and have no idea which country has the best acting talent. Probably someplace in Europe. I don't want to give those British any more compliments, since they always seem to run away with the accolades for acting always, but they may have one or two decent actors over there.
I believe Mr. Duvall is just a plain ol' American redneck. If you have seen TENDER MERCIES how could you ever doubt that? Of course he thinks America's better. He just plain ol' can't help hisself.
As a British tourist, crossing the border at Niagara Falls back in 2008, I was unpleasantly surprised at being given the third degree by the US border guards (is that the right description?) on my way into Canada. I was always under the impression that it was pretty much an open border, or at least, there would be a cursory check; after all, 'The 49th Parallel' movie boasted in its opening credits that the US-Canadian border was 'decided on a handshake'. The Canadians just waved me through, both there and back.
shareI've lived on the US side of the border for over 50 years. Suffice it to say that border crossing was a lot simpler pre-9/11 going either way. Sad.
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