This film is terrible!


I saw it yesterday at a screening. There are a few good moments between Downey and Gibson. But that is it. The movie is boring and stupid as hell, some people walked out, I kept hoping it would get better but it did not. pure garbage.

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oh i don't know.
i thought it was rather funny most of time. granted, i didn't know if it was *trying* to be funny or serious when i was finding it funny, but still . . .
it's weird, and i think it definitely stands on its own, but i don't think it's fair to make a judgement call on it for that. it *does* move slowly, but i don't think it was boring for that. it drew heavily on Dark's psychology, and Downey Jr. stood up to that role well (again, i'm not sure if this is because he's an outstanding actor--which i'd like to believe--or a really messed up guy--which is another likelihood).
meh. i don't know. i wouldn't call it pure garbage.
maybe i just i have a penchant for weird, slow, quirky films.
and Mr. Downey Jr.



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I was hoping that this would have all the trappings of a good noir-in-color like Chinatown or L.A. Confidential, but it appeared to be made on a limited budget so there were no redeeming visual elements. The sex was gratituous and disgusting. Why Jeremy Northam takes on these roles, I'll never understand. I was very surprised that Mel Gibson would appear in a movie that has such "depraved" elements, with all this buzz about his orthodox Catholicism, but hypocrities run Hollywood, so no big surprise.
I myself almost walked out, I found the movie so odd and disgusting from the outset, but I'm glad I stayed. The final few scenes were surprisingly funny and positive. Robert Downey Jr. is an incredible actor, who obviously uses his real life to bring greater significance to his roles. The final shot of him in a recovered state was so damn sexy it was worth the price of admission, I thought. But I'd have to rate the film overall a C.

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The film is good, not great...7/10 imo. It was a low budget film, but come on, how was it ever gonna get real money and stay true to the original script. The sex was supposed to be gratuitous and disgusting. Mel Gibson produced the movie, so why wouldn't he be in it? Dear me...odd and disgusting? It was meant to be...we were looking into his deranged mind. Why did you even go to see this movie? Didn't you know what it was? Have you not heard of Dennis Potter?

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I thought the sex was supposed to be funny?
Especially with the grin on RDJ's face and "I was just thinking of you."

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Anyone who thought this was "serious" sex just didn't get it!! The sex scenes were just the visual erotic thoughts of a delusional mind. and Yes....I loved that evil grin on Dan's face when Nicola walked in....with the comment "I was just thinking of you"....perfect! I loved this film so much and can hardly wait to see it again.....and again. I guess I should have ordered 2 DVD's....I am sure the first one will be worn out in the first couple of months. Maybe those who didn't "get it" should see it again....with no expections....just let your mind flow with it. It really is excellent!! Joyce

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Did you watch the movie? Pay attention to the plot? The sex was supposed to be gratuitous and disgusting because he wrote it about repressed memories of his mother having sex in front of him. It was a disgusting act, and he wrote it that way purposefully. Of course you would find the worst part ( the ending) as the only good part. I swear some of you people find the good stuff bad and the really bad stuff great. twisted perspectives. And if you were honestly looking for a straight on noir in color, like chinatown or la confidential, you were very wrong and obviously didn't know what type of movie you were going to see.

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This movie was VERY weak. 5/10 just for Robert's performance, which is marvelous. Michael Gambon and the BBC series just cannot be beat. For my money, along with Lars Von Trier's "The Kingdom", it is the greatest mini-series ever created.

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I can only agree, VERY much! :)

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I haven't seen this movie, but just started the BBC version. I suspect this may be "opposite sides of the Atlantic" problem. I like these actors, and the song and dance numbers were amusing if odd, but the whole thing was boring as can be. I am sticking with it (all 400 minutes)because of the actors and the reviews, but so far it's like being forced to eat spinach, gaggingly bland. A British coach tour driver raved to me about delicious sausage he found in Germany; white, because it was pure fat. I was nauseous just listening to him. Maybe this is a sausage equivalent. Does not go down well here.

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i donotagree does no one out there get the brilliant humour also what an extra treat on dvd of robert singing solo great movie great entertainment

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I just bought the original series and that's good enough for me.
The characters name in Hospital is Philip Marlow(no e) not Dan Dark. That should tell you what this movie is like.
With remakes of this and "Ladykillers" is the Americal film industry making any original movies that are not preachy, judmental, blind patriotic, xenophobic, formulaic?

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Just to mention: for those that are upset that it doesn't match the British original, it's not supposed to. Dennis Potter, who wrote the much lauded original miniseries, wrote the script for the screen adaption with all the attendant changes (main character's name, locale, etc.)

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This movie was very good. I laughed like hell in some parts. Now, I haven't seen Adaptation, but what I can say of this movie is that it also goes in a little moer deep than what people are looking for. Hell, I've been reading some newspaper reviews, and not even those critics can understand it.

The whole point of the movie is to compare an author's life to his work. It does, in fact, happen quite often that some parts in the book you're reading/movie you're watching will have a strong connection to the author's life.

It's also a story which bases itself on the fact of how fiction gets mixed with reality. I considered it quite intresting the way they had put it.

One more thing: if you say that the script is BS, THEN YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD THE MOVIE (or at least the script/dialouge). If you realize well, there is a great change of writing skills/tecniques throughout the movie. That's because some scenes in the movie are real life, while others have been TAKEN FROM DARK'S BOOK. The dialouge, acting, direction, etc. in that scene are all seen through Dan Dark's mind. I'm not sure who says it, but someone did say that Dan Dark was not a good writer. In THAT you can blame the "cheesy" script (which if you also realize, it's excellent at the times where he's talking to Mel Gibson or his wife, even most of the nurses and doctors). Also, it's said various times from his wife that the story itself sucked. Many people didn't get that.

Overall, it was a great movie. 8/10

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Okay here goes...I think the point of the flim is seeing your mother have nasty sex with your father's business partner can really mess with a kids head. Might seem obvious when you put it that way but really I'm not so sure and I think perhaps that's the reason for this flim. Sex is a religion these days (really there have always been those who worship their baser lusts as gods). Northam's characters are really quite common in our world, how many of us know a guy who loves to look at himself in a mirror while having sex, loves to brag about his exploits. We have scienctists commiting heinous crimes and calling it research, there are studies that say mabye having sex with children is'nt such a bad thing. So my point is here is a film that at the very least acknowledges that there is such a thing as right and wrong. A woman commiting adultery while her child watches is wrong and causes him harm. His father beating him and her for doing it is wrong and causes damgage. Her prostituing herself is wrong, and causes damgage. The problem with his skin is only part of the problem, in a film its a visual way to display the problem that's going on inside. So I don't really see Mel's involvment in this film as hypocritical. No in reality perhpas he sees something redeming in it. Now personally I wish there was another way to make the point without all the lewd sex scences, but the point is that is our culture now. We live in a socitey that has changed the meaning of the words whore and pimp to mean something cool, something to aspire to, (listen to some pop music and watch the videos and you'll see what I'm talking about). Being a pimp is cool, and being a whore just means you really like sex, and who are we to judge that. But here's a film that says wait a minute, a pimp is a guy who traffics in flesh, and a whore is someone who has sold themselves (just like our society has but we're worse off because we're actually paying to be whores). So his wife in that, I think its that last noir scence, says it, you have taken everything that's good about sex and love and marriage and poluted it, and turned every woman into a whore and that's disgusting, i.e. wrong. I really don't care if any of you think I'm beging judgmental, I am, I am judging myself here as well as our culture, and like Mr. Gibson I know who'll I'll give an account to when I die, and it won't be any of you.
As to the cheesy dialouge, and sets during the noir sections of the film. It was supposed to be that was. The director in the commentary said he was going for the cheesy 1950's noir effect where everything was shot on what were obviously sets. Why? The novel is set in the 50's and plus all those scences are taking place in Dark's head. Incomplete, like a maze he's working his way through, for example in the bar at the begining, we don't see anyone else because, he does not "see" anyone else. The director decscribes it as hyper-noir.
Anyhow I'd give it a 7.5/10. Solid performances from the actors, good story if you can follow it, but I really don't like all the nasty sex, but I'll give it that half point because I think that's the point.
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i take serious offence in your last remark about Attention Deficit Disorder. Please dont make comments about things you dont know about. I also happen to have psoriasis, which is what put one of the characters into the hospital, and what the director of this movie had so lets give me a little credit here.

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well i have to disagree, this movies is awesome, the acting is great, robert downey jr. is great in this movie

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I completly agree with you junmengo. I think this film is very under rated.

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It's plain bizarre, not to mention a little worrying, to see that Dennis Potter's name is only mentioned once in this whole thread! I've not seen the film, as I'm very apprehensive about whether or not this interpretation of my favourite UK television drama ever could actually have anything to offer; if it hasn't, I imagine the letdown would just undermine my enjoyment of the original. Whatever, I pity those who haven't seen the BBC's 1986 masterpiece.

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Well i havent seen the original, probably because i wasnt born in 1986, but i would like to does any one know if it will ever be repeated on any channel?

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This movie was amazing. It had so many subtleties to it, so many different things it may have been saying... it reminded me of this biography of James Dean I read once (called the Mutant King) and Stanislavski's "An Actor Prepares", which I still don't know why I read because I don't act.. hehe.
It's like method acting, where you use your life and yourself, you tear yourself down to the barest roots, and it can be self-destructive. I mean, Dark is so emotionally connected to his story, and it envelopes his perception of reality. Also the fantasy world is a much-needed escape from his painful present situation.
The acting... oh, robert downey jr! you can do no wrong! Every line I believed and loved. Every moment of this movie with him in it was magic. And the ending... I loved the ending. holy god. wow.
And usually I hate Katie Holmes.. she was okay in this movie!!! :)

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Wow I wish i could top your post but i cant, all Ill say is i agree with every word.

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