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I just saw 'Auto Focus' last night - how accurate?


When this movie was first out, I wondered about the title. I had forgotten about Bob Crane videotaping his sexual exploits. Greg Kinnear was a good enough choice to play Crane. I've known how he died for many years (and recently saw actual photos of the crime scene, GHASTLY!!)
I'm wondering how accurate this movie was. No offense to Willem Dafoe, but John Carpenter was certainly too ugly to be landing women on his own. Was Bob Crane always thinking about sex and picking up women? How did he have the time to do "Hogan's Heroes"?

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davbot wrote -

"No offense to Willem Dafoe, but John Carpenter was certainly too ugly to be landing women on his own..."

Your right, but John wasn't "landing" women on his own. He was only getting them through his connection to Bob Crane.





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It did leave out a lot of things to make the story progress along faster. Bob Crane did appear in a movie called The Wicked Dreams Of Paula Schultz during the run of Hogan's and did appear in some guest shots on television shows up until his death. The movie makes it seem that nobody would hire him, period. They did not mention his short lived The Bob Crane Show either. It is still one of my favorite movies of all time though and has such great acting and a strong cautionary tale of choosing your friends carefully. Maybe Bob Crane could of hosted Family Feud all those years and this film could of been about Richard Dawson if Bob Crane was more careful.

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Where did you find pics of the actual crime scene?

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hop21711999 the pictures are on http://www.findadeath.com/Deceased/c/Bob%20Crane/bodyrock.htm deathclock.com also if you go back has a lot of details on Bob Crane about his death.

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Thanks for the link, just looked at them, man those are hard to look at.

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brutal pictures...sad

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I'm watching Auto Focus now on HD Movies.
I can't escape the quote from Dennis Miller on Willem Defoe's performance in Auto Focus:
"Christopher Walken, then add water".

While not an Academy choice, all actors nailed their roles.
Great addition to the home library.

Anyway, the scene of the CBS conference?
Was that filmed at the former Safari Resort in Scottsdale?
IMDb is very vague.
At one time, I worked for a company that provided cleaning services for the Safari (including the Brown Derby coffee shop), where Crane would hang after his performance at the Windmill Theatre.




"You can run me, you can starve me and you can beat me and you can kill me. Just don't bore me."

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It's entertaining, but its accuracy is questionable since it's based on an unathorized biography. According to Scotty Crane, Bob was always happy, not some down and out moody actor. He worked steadily after Hogan's Heroes. He wasn't the church going family man as portrayed, and never had a priest who was a family friend. Patricia Olsen was not an orange juice and vodka drinking lush who was jealous of Crane's fame. She retired from acting after Hogan's Heroes.

MM

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Bob was dead when Scotty was just a child so his testiomony and the claims that were made all come from his mother, who wants to paint a rosy picture of him. He has no way of knowing his dads mood and thoughts in all situations.

He worked steadily but in small parts without much success and this is sort of pointed out in the film. Though they did leave out the fact that he had his own show that was cancelled after a few episodes.

The scenes where he is seen attending church are when he is with his first wife, so Scotty (or Patti) would have no way of knowing if his dad attended church when he was with her. He goes to the priest to ask questions in the film not like he is a personal friend. Scotty claimed that Patti (his second wife) said he only attended church four times when he was with her, and that they were for three funerals and a christening. But it still doesn't get over the fact that in the film the scenes when he was in Church were all during his first marriage. He changed a lot in between those two marriages so there's no way of knowing if he attended church during his first marriage.

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Back in the early 80's I knew a woman who worked with Crane in the dinner theatre circuit. She loathed him. She told me of one incident in a small town where they were doing dinner theatre. He & the cast were out having dinner & a local farmer came up to him all excited to meet his favorite TV star. He asked 'how's your lovely wife?' & Bob responded by telling this poor man what a great f&#@ she was. She said that farmer left their table in utter shock. She said Crane was consumed with sex & he didn't have a clue that what he said to that man was offensive in any way. From the things she told me I think that portrayal was quite accurate.

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The dark foreboding music underlying every scene starting near the end drove me nuts.

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the farmer asked Bob about Bob's wife, or vice-versa?

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https://www.quora.com/What-were-the-most-awful-disasters-in-TV-due-to-copyright-licensing-issues

Crane’s estate was never approached or consulted for Schrader’s movie project; Crane’s family loudly protested the movie’s insinuation that Crane was a church-going sadomasochist, among other things, as well as the film’s jumbled and inaccurate timeline of Crane’s life and death.

Paul Schrader himself admitted to the New York Times:

“My intent with Auto Focus is not to be true or definitive. People's actual lives are not really that interesting. And with Crane I wanted to get at something meaty. Otherwise, who cares?"

That’s where the clusterfuck began: Paul Schrader based the movie on Robert Graysmith’s 1993 book, “The Murder of Bob Crane,” and so depicted Crane’s work on Hogan’s Heroes strictly in terms of incidents described in the book, with no other input from Crane’s estate or the series producers. It was a bad move, crossing the line into slander, libel and property-rights infringement; but any attempt to tell Crane’s story without including Hogan’s Heroes would be futile, so Schrader went ahead with his project anyway.

Yet, the finished film’s Hogan’s Heroes scenes seemed neutered and generic and not-at-all representative of a No.1 hit TV series, rather like a weak and amateur parody of the series that made Bob Crane a star. Even the TV series’ excellent instrumental theme song, Hogan’s Heroes March, was completely omitted from the film “Auto Focus,” making it more than obvious that Paul Schrader had run into a licensing brick wall during production.

What happened? Hogan's Heroes is still a highly protected universe, and original co-creator Al Ruddy now co-owns the rights to the plot, characters, and setting (along with co-creator Bernard Fein's widow). The rights to the original production were originally owned by Bing Crosby Productions and Rysher Entertainment.

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