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Is Spock Vulcan.. was David wrong?


It's interesting how you can look at a question and be so convinced of the answer, until more detail emerges, and then be convinced of the next answer, and so on.

Spock is Vulcan. Sure. But wait a minute, David points out that he's actually HALF-Vulcan!

His mother is an Earthian, and his father is a Vulcan. So does that make him half-Vulcanian?

It's a bit like if someone born in Russia has a Japanese mother and Russian father. Is he half-Russian, or fully Russian?

You see my point? Spock was BORN on Vulcan. Doesn't that make him fully Vulcan, regardless of biology?

If you move to Japan and your kid is born there, are they not fully Japanese? (Maybe a bad example, as people that look western, european or american, japanese can't wrap their minds around them being actually japanese..)

I mean, unless Spock was born half way between Earth and Vulcan, he is fully Vulcan, because he was born on Vulcan. Bruce Lee was fully American, because he was born in USA.

This brings an interesting question of how people classify people - is someone something because of WHERE their body was born, or WHAT their body was born from?

Do your parents dictate what you are, or do the geographic coordinates?

Many TV shows make the egotistical mistake of thinking that Earthians are the only humans, and everything else is 'aliens' - just thinking of the pompous, Xenophobic, alienating and egomaniacal 'Babylon 5' intro speech about 'aliens and humans' sends shivers to my spine out of sheer repulsion of such nationa.. err, planetalionist? pathos.

Whether someone is a human, IS NOT dictated by their body, but their soul. Therefore, Spock is HUMAN, not half-human.

Whether someone's body (not even Spock himself, but the body) is 'something-ian', is usually dictated by the fictional lines that have been contractually drawn around some representations of certain geographical areas on some things called 'maps' that then are superimposed to the geographical coordinates of a specific vajayzina that opened up to let you out of its slimy confinement.

This means, anyone born in Mexico, can be called 'Mexican', even if their father was half-Peruvian and half-Irish, and their mother a quarter of an Eskimo and one imperial unit of a French hillbilly.

I mean, Spock was born and lived his life on Vulcan, therefore, he is 100% a Vulcan, right?

Spock's soul is also not some animal or weirdo thing, it's a normal human soul that just happened to incarnate into a body that was born on Vulcan.

Therefore, he is 100% human, right?

If anything, Spock is 100% Vulcan AND 100% Human simultaneously, not HALF-anything!

Therefore, David was wrong.

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You are basically conflating Race and Culture. You race is your dna, Your culture is what you learn growing up. You don't have to have any genetic ties to a culture to be part of it.

You half Russian half Japanese people born in Russian is probably going to be cultural Russian, but genetically they are half.

Your Bruce Lee example is something completely different. He was born on American Soil so he was an American citizen, but he was born to Chinese Parents, and he lived in China until he was an adult. He was genetically and culturally Chinese, even if was an American citizen. Anyone can became a citizen.

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Incorrect.

When two different species mate and produce offspring, that offspring is called a hybrid.

Hybrid cells contain 50% of the genetic material from each parent species.

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That’s what we call our daughter.

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LOL!

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We’re terrible parents ☹️

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and one of you is a Vulcan!

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My wife is the alien 👽

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lol

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Pretty sure TOS makes numerous references to him actually being half-Vulcan.

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