Why did le tenia beat alex after he raped her?
What was the point? he already got what he wanted, and what was alex doing reaching back toward Le Tenia durring the rape?
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He was inserting through the anal area and the dialogue he was saying definitely showing he was just expressing his hate rather than he was attracted to her.
He is gay and he raped her and beat her up because he hates women.
That is the surface of the scene and I can understand. Don't know I should bother to dig deeper to understand what was the writer thinking.
He is gay and he raped her and beat her up because he hates women.Which is an offensive stretch. (Not on your part!)
Gay men don't hate women. Usually they're quite friendly with them, and it certainly seems they treat women more kindly than many straight men do.
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jesus...it's a movie.
IRL, Rape IS about sex. Not power. The latter is kind of a myth.
NO... Rape is about POWER ..... it has NOTHING to do with sex....
That is why OLD women get raped as well as ugly women....
as well as the mentally and physically handicapped.....
here are some Myths and facts......
Myth: Rape is sex.
Fact: Rape is experienced by the victims as an act of violence. It is a life-threatening experience. One out of every eight adult women has been a victim of forcible rape. (National Victim Center and Crime Victims Research and Treatment Center, 1992) While sexual attraction may be influential, power, control and anger are the primary motives. Most rapists have access to a sexual partner. Gratification comes from gaining power and control and discharging anger. This gratification is only temporary, so the rapist seeks another victim.
Myth: Rape only happens to young attractive women.
Fact: Rape can and does strike anyone at anytime. Age, social class, ethnic group and has no bearing on the person a rapist chooses to attack. Research data clearly proves that a way a woman dresses and / or acts does not influence the rapists choice of victims. His decision to rape is based on how easily he perceives his target can be intimidated. Rapists are looking for available and vulnerable targets.
Statistics were obtained from various sources including the study Rape in America, 1992, National Victim Center, The Federal Bureau of Investigations and the National Crime Survey.
Myth: Rape is a crime of passion.
Fact: Rape is an act of VIOLENCE, not passion. it is an attempt to hurt and humiliate, using sex as the weapon.
Myth: Most rapes occur when people are out alone at night. If people stay at home, then they will be safer.
FACT 44% of rapes reported to the Orange County Rape Crisis Center in 1991 occurred in the victim's home.
Myth: Women "ask for it" by their dress or actions.
FACT Rapists look for victims they perceive as vulnerable, not women who dress in a particular way. Assuming that women provoke attacks by where they are or the way they dress is victim-blaming. No person, whatever their behaviour, "deserves" to be raped.
Myth: Only young, pretty women are assaulted.
FACT Survivors range in age from infancy to old age, and their appearance is seldom a consideration. Assailants often choose victims who seem most vulnerable to attack: old persons, children, physically or emotionally disabled persons, substance abusers and street persons. Men are also attacked.
http://www.d.umn.edu/cla/faculty/jhamlin/3925/myths.html
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Just a Gurl from Seattle, living in Sweden
Sorry. It's about cumming into a warm body. It's about sex.
shareumm u might be surprised but for some people raping is kind a like sexual and *beep* just like there are people that get off on killing, or people get off on feet, *beep* on their chest, mmm, all kinds of crap actually. so its not the sex that gets them off, it is the the whole rape expirience. otherwise there are a lot of easier and more comfortable ways to bang a broad. i mean even a sleezy hotel with a hooker is better than one of those european tunnels.
shareNO... Rape is about POWER ..... it has NOTHING to do with sex....
That is absolute garbage. Rape is about power AND sex, otherwise "sexual assault" would not involve penetration and sexual release. People who say it's got nothing to do with sex are a joke. There are men out there like the guy in this film, for whom yes, it is strictly about power. But that's rare. The vast majority of rapes occur because the rapists feel entitled to sex. They see women as sex objects to use as they want, or they're angry or frustrated and get a power trip THROUGH the act of sex. If it was only about power, there would be no sex involved. They'd kidnap someone and chain them up to get off on having control over another person's life. Or they'd wait in a dark alley and just beat the hell out of the first person who crossed their path. To say it's totally unrelated to sex is ignorant and ridiculous, since in most cases it most certainly is. share
Swedish Girl is quoting a lot of facts and semi-facts but I agree with illyrianX.
Another point: I don't walk around enveloped in an aura of power, so what would I know? But take people who are invested with power - heads of state, for example (the males): are they walking around with massive dongs in their trousers, desperate to relieve their urges? I don't think so.
And I never bought that 100%-power *beep* peddled about male-on-male rape in prisons. Like, no, no, no, we haven't got a gay bone in our body, our cocks are only erect because we are mean bastards who want to make sure everyone knows we can pulp them.
The hoops people jump through to perpetuate the 100%-power myth really get me wondering..
In some cases maybe it _is_ mostly about power (and revenge) as in the activities of the Red Army at the end of WWII. In a lot of areas they would just rape every female person they could find. Little girls, old women, it didn't matter. But I don't think this is the usual experience of rape, as studies find that most victims are raped by someone they know.
shareNo one is saying that there isn't a sexual component there. But the fact is that most rapist could have sex "normally" if they wanted to. Like in the Steubenville case. These were good looking football players. Are we supposed to believe that girls shunned them? Eh no they probably could easily have had consensual sex. But they didn't want that because they wanted to humiliate someone. To hurt someone. They got off on it. That's what most rapes are. It's about humiliating the victim. Hurt them. And how do you hurt someone in the most horrible way? You rape them.
shareThat is absolute garbage. Rape is about power AND sex, otherwise "sexual assault" would not involve penetration and sexual release
There is not always sexual release. Many times other objects are used. Castrating rapists doesn't work. Many will continue to rape using other objects.
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt. share
Well, as someone who has read many rape cases (love true crime, as long as I don't star in it):
- Date rape (usually between people who know each other) is as much about sex as it is about power and whatever sexual/personality hangups the rapists has. In this case the sexual component is pretty strong. Seriously, can you remember a university campus rape where the victim was a fat old lady? Ugly people don't usually get the roofie.
- Violent rape (usually a stranger, and a pretty deranged one) is the one were the sexual component can be relatively minor and the power/personality baggage is predominant. This is where you see rape victims of all ages and genders, fatties and uglies, even mental handicapped people. These people get off more on the violent act itself than on the attractiveness of the victim. In this case, any hole will suffice.
So to answer your question:
- Because he OBVIOUSLY gets off on the degradation/violence component of the sexual assault, not on who in particular happens to be bellow him. Since he's gay, he clearly doesn't get hard at looking pretty girls.
- This includes beating the victim into a bloody pulp. Do a simple google search looking for superheroine websites and you'll see many where the selling point is watching girls is disguise being beaten senseless, more than being sexually assaulted. Some people get off on that. So the beating is part of the sexual release ritual of these perverts.
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He raped and beat her because he's a monster that doesn't deserve to draw breath..
simple as that.
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