Headbangingzizou, actually, I do.
It seems that you are the one that does not.
I explain why I said that, despite being a cold affirmation, just like yours.
I film is supposed to entertain, not frighten you with sick pictures and visions like the ones clearly demonstrated in the film in question.
Films are supposed to be teach you something, and also to make you feel something worth feeling.
Tell me something, what did you actually learn with that film that is so worth while' Nothing, for me, in my own experience, I don't know about you.
What did you actually feel that was so worth while for you? Nothing, for me.
Films nowadays are not what they were, actually, a long time ago, films were created with another vision in mind, even though there were many subjects, like horror, action, western, romance, drama.
Films nowadays, have sick visions, nothing worth while seeing nor talking about, even though I am in this precise moment, and the ones that do think that the film was a good experience, that is just because they do not have a clue of what films are supposed to do.
Enough talking for me, I have no more time. I hope you open your eyes to what has happened to films, and really think about it, and perhaps you'll see that only a very limited number of films nowadays are really worth seeing, if you want to get a truly good experience, in the sense that you have learned something worth while, and that the film made you feel something that was worth while and useful to YOUR LIFE.
Lyon
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headbangingzizou
13 years ago
Yes I concur, a film is supposed to entertain it's audience for the most part. But that is just one of many reasons why a movie or a film is made.
The purpose of a film can also be to educate, to arouse, to bring a point across, to tell about a person or a certain story or to document a specific situation etc...
What the director intended to show was an extreme situation that could happen to anyone anywhere in everyday life. A rape is a horrifying violation of a man or a woman's free will and it is one of the most evil and sinful acts a person can commit in a society.
However, despite the fact that sexual assault is such a sickening crime, it needs to be discussed in society. And what did this film do? Yes, it MAKES US TALK about rape and violence and what should happen to the perpetrator or how justice should be done upon him. How should he be punished for such a crime? Why do people not help the victim, when they see someone being raped (as this was also a scene in the film). If films like these are never made, if books about situations like these are never written, then people will very rarely, if ever, talk about extreme situations like these.
The purpose of this film was to show how an extreme situation like the rape of someone we love, can affect us. Noè portrayed this insatiable thirst for revenge very well. Most of the audience could relate to the fury that was developing inside of Marcus after what happened to his wife. And you cannot tell me, that if your wife/girlfriend/sister/mother or whoever would have been violated in such a way, that you would not thirst for revenge or at least get furious because of the person that committed the crime.
The film is not supposed to make people aggressive and start beating the crap out of each other. If people tend to get violent just by watching a movie, then there is something very wrong with them - and it is not because of the movie!
To simply say that this movie has no good aspects about it and that it only inspires violence is simply a stupid thing to say. It brings numerous points across. How many people could ever thought about how horrific a rape can be? I will bet a million bucks that not even 10% of the people that watched this film imagined a rape to be so horrific and violent. The film also portrays the way the family and friends of the victim feel. Their entire world collapses! And through the artistic work of Noé it was portrayed very well and extremely realistic. People were able to relate to how it must be like to lose someone you love to such a horrible act. And then of course, there are the great performances of the actors in this film, which is also something admirable.
If you did not get the message this film was trying to send, then I feel sorry for you. But everyone should be entitled to create his or her own opinion about a movie or a book or whatever and that is why one should never tell people not to watch something. Sure, you can tell people that you do not recommend it because you did not like it and that is fine, but you should let people decide for themselves!
Think about it ;)
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lyon111
13 years ago
You tell me that I should not say my recommendation about the film, but that is against the human rights, I am sure you know which one.
You tell me that my affirmation is stupid and that i have no idea what a movie is for.
You tell me that I have no clue to what a film is for and so forth.
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If you tell me those things, you loose all the credit to tell me whatever you want to tell me, because you do the following:
Disrespect my human rights - freedom of speech;
Do not respect my opinion - freedom of speech;
Offend me by calling me stupid and my acts as stupid - crime agaisnta person's integrity;
Et cetera.
This is just to make a point. The point is that you criticize me for something that you do far worst, which is to insult me, insult my opinions, and my freedom of speech, my integrity, etc. etc. etc.
If you had been humble and not arrogant, I might have respect for you, but like that, I just can not, and I am the one that is sorry for you, for you not being more adult in answering and/or replying to a person's opinion, which clearly demonstrates how young you should be and/or how lack of principles you should have not.
Lyon
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Gaston_JR
13 years ago
"This movies has nothing good about it, and it is not a drama nor horror movie in any way, it is just the horrifying visions of an idiot, put in cinema, nothing else."
I disagree with you. As many others have stated in other posts "the horrifying visions of an idiot, put in cinema" are the reflex of this twisted world we all live in. I agree that they are far too visual and not everyone can bare to watch those scenes completely; even Gaspar Noe walked out of a movie because of a rape scene in the middle of the plot. The idea of making a movie backwards and putting the gruesome and hard to see scenes at the beginning is brilliant because after that you know there is going to be ameliorating scenes. This movie does leave a message, and for me it was that as much as you seek revenge things can't be undone.
Although It may inspire disgust, anger, it also inspire consciousness (awareness) in our lives. It can open our eyes to the real world out there and teach us to be more cautious and I'm not referring just to women here but to everyone, rape is not a gender biased crime. This movie does inspire anger, but violence? I don't think so. If you are not a violent person this movie will not make you a violent one. As the director said "Each member of the audience handles the movie as he/she wants".
"I strongly advice you not to see it, you will not like it, unless you are a sick freak."
I personally liked it, for me it is a remarkable film. Am I a sick freak? I'm not, It does not make me ghoulish morbid person. I do respect others opinions about this film and therefore I expect to be respected. I respect yours and that's the purpose of this boards, to make discussions, as well as the purpose of this film.
One interesting point of this film is that the rape scene was more directed by Monica than by Noe. Curious, isn't it?
(Sorry for any misspelled word or grammatical mistake. Spanish is my native language)
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dolores_medina
13 years ago
"If you tell me those things, you loose all the credit to tell me whatever you want to tell me, because you do the following:
Disrespect my human rights - freedom of speech;
Do not respect my opinion - freedom of speech; "
So doesn't Noe' also have the right of free speech? Or are you the only person with that right?
Doesn't Noe' have the right to film whatever he chooses to film? Free Speech?
Sorry you have lost all credibility because you are a hypocrite.
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chamohlamb
9 years ago
You can't flat out say that a film is supposed to entertain, and no film can have any other purpose.
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