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Was Kyra right to move in with brock

posted 12 years ago by mikkijohnson13
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Ok i watched the kyra moving out episodes and i was wondering who thinks she was right to move out of reba's and those who preferred her to stay with Reba. I thought brock was right when he said at least over here she can be a kid again. i mean Van and Cheyenne were the center of attention because they were married and had elizabeth, and Jake who still needed to be cared for. I think Kyra made the right choice for and i don't think she was trying to hurt Reba. She tried to do many good things for Kyra but Van and Cheyenne would mess up and Reba would have to bail them out. One example when everyone was raising money so kyra could do a study abroad thing but van and cheyenne forgot to pay for daycare so the money had to be used for them, not saying reba should have ignored elizabeth's well being but obviously that hurt Kyra. If i were Kyra i would want to move in with Brock and Barbra Jean so i could live my life.

[–] easytoenvy3 12 years ago

i think that kyra was right to move in with brock because feeling like the wheel that everyone drags behind is no fun and plus paying the price for those two morons cheyenne and vans mistake and being forced having to deal with it the rest of her teen years i would have gotten fed up and left too and it did seem like that house hould was ruled by those two morons cheyenne and van i think that it was a smart and wise move

[–] ghettosgirl 12 years ago

Absolutely. I did that when I was her age. I moved in with my dad because I was kind of like kyra and having adult responsibilities at 13 and at my dads it was just me and him and I could be a kid.

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[–] mikkijohnson13 12 years ago

I think Kyra was right to move in with brock and she was still able to have a relationship with her mom. Less stress for everyone.

[–] ssned5 11 years ago

Poor Kyra was always shoved aside from Princess Cheyenne

[–] PopperTheKungFu-Dragon 11 years ago

I think she was right to move in with Brock, but I also think that Kyra was too hard on Reba and too forgiving of Brock. Reba gave in too much to Cheyenne who definitely deserved to be kicked in the butt hard sometimes, but its not like Brock was great with Kyra or anything either.

I'm only on the third season so I don't know how their relationship progresses, but Brock seemed to spend most of his time with Jake when he did take one of the kids out that is. Actually most of the time he was just slacking off on his duties as a father.

[–] whitespirit26 10 years ago

"I think she was right to move in with Brock, but I also think that Kyra was too hard on Reba and too forgiving of Brock. Reba gave in too much to Cheyenne who definitely deserved to be kicked in the butt hard sometimes, but its not like Brock was great with Kyra or anything either."

Exactly, I remember being proud of Kyra when she got BJ to stand up to her snarky older sister, after which BJ hugged Kyra. Then I thought, "Wait, this IS the bimbo who broke up Kyra's family. Why is she buddy-buddy with her so soon?"

[–] mikkijohnson13 10 years ago

"Why is she buddy-buddy with her so soon?""

I forget if this happened in season 2 or 3 but Kyra didn't like Barbra Jean for a long time. I guess Kyra understood what it was like being the younger sister and saw how sane Barbara Jean was compared to the rest of her family. I always enjoyed seeing Kyra and Barbara Jean bond over the course of the show.

But back to the main topic was Kyra hard on Reba? to some extent yes however Reba put Kyra in a tough spot by expecting Kyra to act like a grown up while bailing Cheyenne out of whatever mess she was in when Cheyenne should have fallen on her face. Brock wasn't perfect by any means but he obviously wanted to give Kyra a chance to live her life and not second place to everyone else.

[–] MydnightRose 10 years ago

Even with the baby at Brocks it didn't seem like Kyra was second to him. Kyras life wasn't great before Elizabeth and it got worse after, through no fault of the baby but tbecause of the fault of her parents.

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[–] BenzSteven 9 years ago

White Spirit pretty much. I didn't like how also bossy at times Kyra was with her mother and yes way too hard on Reba big time, and way too forgiving of the father, Brock. ICAM on that. But,i did like when Kyra realize she was way better off residing with her mother. As IMHO it suppose to be exactly that way. Let her visit dad each weekend or every day and little bro Henry. .Kyra was better w/mom JMHO on that.Not Brock and Barbara Jean.

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[–] magdalene_1024 11 years ago

Having just watched the episodes in question over the past few days....

I have to admit I was so infuriated on Kyra's behalf it wasn't even funny.

Reba should have never caved in and given Van and Cheyenne the money. Cheyenne screwed off and acted like attending her classes was a joke, and everybody else got screwed over for it. Reba should have looked them both in the eye and told them they were going to have to find jobs--even crappy ones--and start working and looking at moving out and taking care of their own problems. All Van and Cheyenne learned from that was that Reba will bail them out--even at the expense of somebody else who deserved the money more.

Cheyenne and Van didn't even seem sorry for what they'd done. All they could think about was if Kyra moved out, they could put Elizabeth in her room.

In Reba's place, I think I would've ripped into those slackers so hard they would've moved out of their own free will rather than deal with me again.

They never even apologized to Kyra for how their behavior cost her something she had worked hard for.

And when Reba pulled her whole, "If you move out, you don't get to move back," bit on Kyra....quite frankly I wanted to slap her. Hard. Don't encourage a situation if you're not prepared to accept the consequences of it, Reba. When Kyra handed over her house key, I cheered that kid on.

[–] Fan-of-TLC 11 years ago

And when Reba pulled her whole, "If you move out, you don't get to move back," bit on Kyra....quite frankly I wanted to slap her. Hard. Don't encourage a situation if you're not prepared to accept the consequences of it, Reba. When Kyra handed over her house key, I cheered that kid on.

Ha except Reba let her move back in.

The only reason Reba gave them that money was because of Elizabeth. Had Cheyenne not been a mom and just a regular old college student, I feel Reba wouldn't have given her that money. She would have made Cheyenne get a job and figure it out on her own.

It's not fair to let the baby suffer because Cheyenne is an idiot.

[–] mikkijohnson13 11 years ago

"It's not fair to let the baby suffer because Cheyenne is an idiot."

No Elizabeth shouldn't suffer because her parents are idots but Kyra shouldn't have to suffer because her sister had unprotected sex and got married and continued living under reba's roof. Reba and Brock were both in the wrong for not pushing Cheyenne and Van harder and letting them mess up so much. I'm glad Kyra was able to seperate herself a little bit from the van and cheyenne show.

[–] sexykitten0814 11 years ago

IHeartJillFlint, I agree most people would not let their grandchild suffer because the child's parent is an idiot, and I know that's ultimately why Reba did so much for Cheyenne.

BUT, this was NOT something that directly affected Elizabeth's well being. It would have been different had the child needed a medical procedure or something, but the worst thing that was going to happen here was that Cheyenne would lose Elizabeth's daycare and have to quit school for awhile to stay home with her daughter until she could find other arrangements for childcare, and from what I can see, Cheyenne deserved that.

I understand helping Cheyenne get through school was an investment in Elizabeth's future, so that Cheyenne could potentially provide a better life for her. But Cheyenne either took that opportunity seriously or she didn't, and from I can see, it was the latter. Teen parent or not, if I paid a lot of money for my kid to go to college, and she just discarded her classes like they were nothing, just because she didn't like them, they weren't convenient, etc., I'd have serious reservation about paying for more school for her until she was more certain about what she wanted. Cheyenne could pretty much do as she pleased without giving thought to the future because she knew Mommy would always bail her out. It was time to learn life doesn't let you cherry pick the consequences of your actions, especially at others' expense.

Besides were there really no other options that could have been explored? Plenty of parents attend college without the benefit of on campus daycare. What about taking night classes until she could get the daycare back? Cheyenne could have been with Elizabeth during the day while Van and Reba could be with her at night. Van and Cheyenne qualified to get food stamps in an earlier episode, so surely they might have qualified for some state assisted daycare as well. Or what about Barbara Jean? She was staying home with Henry at this time, couldn't they have offered to pay her to help watch Elizabeth for awhile?

In any event, if I had been Reba, I would have told Cheyenne, "You want this money? YOU talk to your sister, YOU be the one to ask her to give up this opportunity so you can have it instead. If she says on her own accord she's fine with that, then I'll give it to you. Otherwise, go talk to your dad." Where was Brock when Reba was making all this sacrifice for Cheyenne and her family? Why did everything always have to fall on Reba?

[–] magdalene_1024 11 years ago

Reba had asked Brock for additional money (Brock had already given money for Kyra's trip previously). Problem was timing--Brock and Barbara Jean had just bought the new house, and Brock didn't have any spare cash lying around when Reba came around the second time.

[–] magdalene_1024 11 years ago

I understand helping Cheyenne get through school was an investment in Elizabeth's future, so that Cheyenne could potentially provide a better life for her. But Cheyenne either took that opportunity seriously or she didn't, and from I can see, it was the latter. Teen parent or not, if I paid a lot of money for my kid to go to college, and she just discarded her classes like they were nothing, just because she didn't like them, they weren't convenient, etc., I'd have serious reservation about paying for more school for her until she was more certain about what she wanted. Cheyenne could pretty much do as she pleased without giving thought to the future because she knew Mommy would always bail her out. It was time to learn life doesn't let you cherry pick the consequences of your actions, especially at others' expense.

Besides were there really no other options that could have been explored? Plenty of parents attend college without the benefit of on campus daycare. What about taking night classes until she could get the daycare back? Cheyenne could have been with Elizabeth during the day while Van and Reba could be with her at night. Van and Cheyenne qualified to get food stamps in an earlier episode, so surely they might have qualified for some state assisted daycare as well. Or what about Barbara Jean? She was staying home with Henry at this time, couldn't they have offered to pay her to help watch Elizabeth for awhile?

In any event, if I had been Reba, I would have told Cheyenne, "You want this money? YOU talk to your sister, YOU be the one to ask her to give up this opportunity so you can have it instead. If she says on her own accord she's fine with that, then I'll give it to you. Otherwise, go talk to your dad."

I pretty much agree with everything posted here. Cheyenne and Van had other options, and Reba should have told them that since Cheyenne thought everything was 'inconvenient' before, she was going to learn the true meaning of the word and really make some sacrifices to prove she deserved a second chance at getting somebody to pay for her college classes. And as you said, I don't know many parents would be willing to pay for the classes again because their child basically didn't bother to take it seriously the first time around.

The only thing I wouldn't have done was given them a chance at the money. They blew it, I wouldn't have punished Kyra over it.

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[–] kclaura2003 10 years ago

@ magdalene_1024 ,

I 100% agree with you. Whenever that episode is on, I can barely bring myself to watch it, it is so infuriating. I really don't blame Kyra for moving out. Cheyenne and Van got top priority all the time and whenever Kyra did get some attention it seemed like Reba was way hard on her, harder on Kyra than she was on Cheyenne. I think Reba should have told Cheyenne "Tough" about the money, why does she get bailed out of everything all the time?! And Kyra (who I think is sometimes the most sensible character on the show) always ends up getting the short end of the stick because Reba refuses to let her older daughter fall on her ass and learn a life lesson the hard way for once.

[–] josephnatescott 10 years ago

Reba was a better parent overall than Brock, so it's not like he was a very good role model for someone to live with. Barbra Jean was different from him but overall not that great either. But Kyra didn't care about role models anyway, or at least thought she didn't, and she needed a break from Cheyenne being Cheyenne. Plus, Brock and Barbra Jean proved they could sit down to a nice meal on time, which Kyra could probably sense would make a nice change from the usual drama. Barbra Jean was too insecure to really be as much of a know-it-all as Reba was, and when you're a teenager, the know-it-all act can get old (even if, in reality, she's right a ton of the time).

[–] alice-dukesohazzardfan 10 years ago

those episodes really make me angry when Cheyenne comes to talk to Kyra about how Reba was feeling. She went out of her way and called Kyra selfish for wanting to leave. i just wish i could punch her across the face and tell her how selfish she was for causing Kyra to leave in the first place