It's go time.
Thats why I dont always put the blame only on the men
There are some woman that cant tell if the man is abusive but lets be fair
Yes.
Let's.
Let's be fair by requesting you to tell us about all the
men upon whom you
do "
put the blame"; all the men with whom you
discuss this subject, and what exactly you
tell them.
I've told this many times to women when we discuss this subject but they dont wanna hear it.
I can imagine. I can also imagine how hard of a time you have getting all those
men to stay still while you hold them to account for their own actions.
It's more likely that you're out having beers with those bad boys while you assure them that they can treat a woman as badly as they like; that their "dysfunction" is something that you yourself will not only overlook - but something for which you will also blame women.
Fact is, women aren't going to walk if they keep thinking the abuse they're receiving is
their own fault, and they're not going to stop thinking it's
their own fault if you keep telling them (and everyone else) that it
is. And as long as you keep telling them it's their fault, then they will keep believing that it is something they can also
change.
Stop telling women they are in control of things that they aren't.In fact, just shut your mouth altogether and start listening to the women who are trying to communicate things to you during these "discussions" of yours.they like bad boys
If you're refusing to stop enabling the bad behavior of the male peers in your community, then that makes
you the
bad boy, player. And a spineless one, at that. You are merely waiting for those women whose spirit has finally been broken by the abusers in your group, to land in a heap on your doorstep and....
and still laid in bed with them
....oh yes, of course. And in your bed.
How angry do you get when women catch on to, and act upon, your own little red flags of dysfunction that you're sending up, and leave you before they get in any deeper with you?
Mmm...I'm guessing you go for a beer with your
good boy friends ('cause of course you've vetted each and every one of them for their
goodness, right?) and talk about how
dramatic women are.
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Verdugo85
8 years ago
I tell these women how it is. They dont wanna hear it because its the truth and they call me "misogynistic" for telling them the truth but I dont care, I dont give a sht. Im telling them what it is but they will not admit it..
These women put up with these dysfunctional, effeminate, lame, weak, pussy, lazy, soft, disrespectful men. They knew these men are no good from the beginning but they still stay because they want to try to change them and they do by having babies with these men. By the time these women have their third or fourth child in by these dysfunctional men and they see that that these men still hasnt changed then thats when they get fed up, they get tired of the bullsht and want out of the relationship then have the audacity to say "all men are dogs" "I dont trust men" "where are the good men?", they become completely damaged from their own choices..
Women must know their worth. They have to make responsible choices when dealing with men and relationships. Its not their job or responsibility to change someone..
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tzogas
8 years ago
You still haven't explained what you tell the men. I'm going to assume that you don't tell them anything. *shrug* I know, right? It's harder to stand up to men, isn't it?
Women must know their worth. They have to make responsible choices when dealing with men and relationships. Its not their job or responsibility to change someone..
How are they going to "know their worth" when you are forcefully undermining it with the things that you say? Most everyone bases their self-image at least in part upon how others see them. Unless, of course, one is completely solipsistic.
And/but their wish to keep their own counsel sans your bullying tactics and your "I don't give a sht" attitude towards them is, quite frankly, an indication of their strength.
You're not a very good friend.
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Verdugo85
8 years ago
You still haven't explained what you tell the men. I'm going to assume that you don't tell them anything. *shrug* I know, right? It's harder to stand up to men, isn't it?
Of course I've said it to men, couple of them but how many men you know go through it? Very very little I bet but Im not gonna sit and explain it to a sad, dysfunctional, lame a$$hole.. A man aint a man if he allow women to treat them like sht and you know that.
How are they going to "know their worth" when you are forcefully undermining it with the things that you say? Most everyone bases their self-image at least in part upon how others see them. Unless, of course, one is completely solipsistic.
And/but their wish to keep their own counsel sans your bullying tactics and your "I don't give a sht" attitude towards them is, quite frankly, an indication of their strength.
You're not a very good friend.
Yeah yeah, here you are getting over-sensitive and emotional "Im not a good friend" well boohoo! Because Im telling the plain truth!! Thats all there is to it. Im not gonna tell them what they want to hear so that they can keep doing it..
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tzogas
8 years ago
Im not gonna sit and explain it to a sad, dysfunctional, lame a$$hole
I'm asking you what you say to the
men who treat
women abusively.
here you are getting over-sensitive and emotional
Dude. I've trained myself to have these kinds of discussions in as dispassionate a way as I can.
I just want to ask you: what is it about vulnerability that triggers such aggression in you?
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Verdugo85
8 years ago
I'm asking you what you say to the men who treat women abusively.
I dont condone abuse.
Abusive men aint no man. Same applies to men who allow women to abuse them and vice versa for women..
But if women are gonna come cry and complain to me about men treating them like *beep* then Im gonna tell them what it is and if they stay then thats their problem, their choice..
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tzogas
8 years ago
According to Verdugo85:
Abusive men = "dysfunctional, effeminate, lame, weak, pussy, lazy, soft, disrespectful men".
Abused men = "sad, dysfunctional, lame a$$hole"
What I'm hearing you say is that you view abusers and those they abuse as the same person.
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Verdugo85
8 years ago
Abused men = "sad, dysfunctional, lame a$$hole
Hold up I didnt say those were the abused men..I've never said that. I referred that to the abusive men..
You misunderstood me..
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tzogas
8 years ago
Hold up
K. I'll re-review and maybe we can pick this up later. Thanks for the heads-up.
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