Doctors DO know more than patients. People also get sick and die because they were NOT intellectually designed. Live with it.
He that will not reason is a bigot; he that cannot reason is a fool; he that dares not reason is a slave. - William Drummond
To explain the unknown by the known is logical; to explain the known by the unknown is lunacy. — David Brooks
Its Sci-Fi, its hardly suppose to be true to life. If all storys stuck to the truth and the scientifically feasible it would be a dull place. I enjoyed the film and didnt think it was 'anti-intellectual' at all.
shareRight....Just Like Al Gore knows more about the climate than the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT....
It's a Science Fiction movie, just like An Inconvenient Truth.
Just enjoy the ride.
Oh yes, and I suppose the entire global scientific establishment is one huge joke.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
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by Beetle1» It's a Science Fiction movie, just like An Inconvenient Truth.
I agree with you about pseudo-science and the intelligent design, but I love this movie, and the books even more. It's science FICTION!
DO you hate all films that are not 100% accurate and based in reality? you must have a really short list of films you like.
"When the winds of change are blowing some people build shelters, others build windmills."
"Right....Just Like Al Gore knows more about the climate than the Alfred P. Sloan Professor of Atmospheric Science at MIT...."
lmao, don't hit "Gore won" with such blasphemy!
you must've watched the movie wrong if you think it was trying to say patients are smarter than doctors
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Except it's not science fiction. You need science for science fiction. This is a psychological mystery.
hehehe ... your name is Gore Won.
"God is dead" - Nietzsche
"Nietzsche is dead - God
Thanks for speaking on behalf of me.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
Ah, the oldest form of debate in the book, pull something from one specific translation out of context and pretend it means something it doesn't. Nice try. This verse has been analyzed in many languages and translations and the King James one is the only version that literally translates to "evil". Do some research before spouting nonsense. kthxbai
Bam said the lady.
Instead of biting on your troll bait and getting into a debate about logical fallacies and epistemology, I'd like to give you a piece of advice - It's not wise to preach rational criticism while making totally unsubstantiated claims with logically contradictory statements as proof. Conventional wisdom can lead you like a lamb to the slaughter just as easily as "Typical American anti-intellectual pseudoscience."
Great movie with some interesting premises. Kevin Spacey is a disgustingly dynamic actor. That was a great troll by the way, I literally just deleted over 500 words of text I was about to throw at you. Hope all is well, best regards, and God bless.
Charles Keating stole $252 million from 17,000 individuals and gave $1.25 million to Mother Theresa. During his trial, the Calcutta nun wrote Judge Lance Ito to ask him for leniency, never mind that the maximum prison term would be 10 years. She did not respond to a co-prosecutor's request that she return the ill-gotten money.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
Cool story bro.
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Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to win their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. (Colossians 3:22; see also Ephesians 6:5-9, Titus 2:9, and 1 Peter 2:18)
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
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You can cite a hundred references to show that the biblical God is a bloodthirsty tyrant, but if they can dig up two or three verses that say "God is love," they will claim that you are taking things out of context! - Dan Barker
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I learn from the best.
To hate men and worship God seems to be the sum of all creeds. - Robert G. Ingersoll, Some Mistakes of Moses, 1879
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shareHey Gore Won, did you ever notice how William Drummond's quote is, by definition, bigoted against unreasonable people, which is a little unreasonable, considering he's advocating reason? That in effect he's called himself a fool and a slave, and quite accurately so. That, also, David Brooks is trying to explain the nature of the unknown via the known, his philosophy also self-destructing and being pointless? The problem with postmodern thinking is its total lack of self-awareness. Think outside the box a little, like the writer of K-PAX, the philosophers of old, and anybody else who has the courage to dream.
shareWhat can be asserted without evidence can also be dismissed without evidence. - Christopher Hitchens
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
Ironically Christopher Hitchens said that without any evidence to support his statement, so I'll just go ahead and dismiss it like he suggests. Again, the postmodernists' lack of self-awareness is what makes it so charming, which is evidenced by pretty much everything you've posted thusfar Gor Won.
shareWhere there is evidence, no one speaks of faith. We do not speak of faith that two and two are four or that the earth is round. We only speak of faith when we wish to substitute emotion for evidence. - Bertrand Russell
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
"Speaking in quotations is a fine way to never have to think for yourself, taking credit for others' wisdom whilst never being wrong, having yourself not said anything." ~ Me
Come on Gore Won, you must have a thought or two all your own. You're allowed to think things other people don't too, even come up with your own ideas. It doesn't matter who said it before you, it doesn't make it any wiser.
"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." ~ Adolph Hitler
See.
It's funny you chose a quotation by the Catholic who was strongly supported by the German church as well as by the pope. You see how funny it is to prove by quotations, don't you? LOL.
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
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Neat. Three points Gore Won:
1) Title versus truth: Sticking feathers in your butt does not make you a chicken. Adolph Hitler's Catholicism was part of his propaganda machine, so if you believe he was really a Catholic, I suppose you're just a sucker for Hitler's propaganda. He, in fact, created his own religion based on race and Norse mythology.
2) Quotations prove nothing by definition, they're simply quotations.
3) Supposing proof was in quotations, and let's say Hitler was Catholic just for giggles, what's your point? What's the LOL? What have you proven in regards to the discussion? Are you here to talk about the movie or convert people? Are you that lonely in your beliefs?
K-PAX was a great movie, it takes an open mind and some understanding. It's challenging engaging, it dares its viewers to open up within their own assumptions about not just prot, but about the nature of life, family, what's "normal" and good. Finally at the end you have to decide whether or not you think prot was an alien from K-PAX or not, which doesn't really say anything about prot, he either was or wasn't regardless of what we think. In the end it only says something about you, the viewer, as the evidence is sufficient either way. Do you believe, or do you doubt? You're probably worst off of all Gore Won, you neither believe nor disbelieve, you're so lost that you don't even understand the question. That's why Socrates said true knowledge is in knowing you know nothing, if you want to speak in quotations.
And hitler's calling himself a Catholic does NOT make him a Christian. A man could call himself an adult, but that wouldn't mean that he IS an adult. He wouldn't BE an adult until he could start ACTING like one. Likewise, for a person who deigns to call themselves a Christian.
shareLOL. You don't get satire, do you?
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
Ever hear of Dietrich Bonhoeffer, Franz Kaufmann, Martin Niemöller, Helene Jacobs, Marga Meusel, Elisabeth Schmitz, Gertrud Staewen, Hans Ehrenberg and the Confessing Church in Germany? Not all Christians supported hitler.
Prove by quotations? I don't see that you've proved anything yet. So, since you brought up the subject and made the assertions about things not being created by Intelligent Design and about doctors being smarter than their patients--which I find to be absolutely ABSURD, given that a doctor does not know my body and my ailments like I do--since you've brought them up and made those assertions, then, my friend, the burden of proof is on you. So fire away. It should make for some amusing, comical reading.
I prayed for freedom for twenty years, but received no answer until I prayed with my legs. - Frederick Douglass
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
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The infliction of cruelty with a good conscience is a delight to moralists--that is why they invented hell. - Bertrand Russell
An intelligent hell would be better than a stupid paradise. - Victor Hugo, "Ninety-three"
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil. (Isaiah 45:7)
By American I am assuming you mean of the United States of America. America encompasses the entire western hemisphere.
If the United States is so anti-intellectual why does it produce more PhDs than any other nation on Earth by a wide margin?
Proud member of the AIAFL.
Oh, I don't know, try telling people you're a professor?
If a man sells his daughter as a servant, she is not to go free as manservants do. (Exodus 21:7)
I think that many of you are totally missing the point of the movie, and doing it in such a way that you are, ironically, proving the point of the movie. Let me give you a couple of quotes:
*Prot: Even your Buddha and your Christ had quite a different vision. But nobody's paid much attention to them, not even your Buddhists and your Christians.
*Prot: I will admit the possibility that I am Robert Porter, if you will admit the possibility that I am from K-PAX. Now if you'll excuse me, I have a beam of light to catch.
*Prot: I wanna tell you something Mark, something you do not yet know, that we K-PAXians have been around long enough to have discovered. The universe will expand, then it will collapse back on itself, then will expand again. It will repeat this process forever. What you don't you know is that when the universe expands again, everything will be as it is now. Whatever mistakes you make this time around, you will live through on your next pass. Every mistake you make, you will live through again, & again, forever. So my advice to you is to get it right this time around. Because this time is all you have.
*Howie: You never gave me my third task. What's my third task?
Prot: To stay here, and be prepared for anything.
He's trying to give us a sort of perspective on our lives. He's basically saying, "Just stop, for one second, and look at yourself. Are you happy?" People are so busy pushing ahead in life and thinking about petty shallow things and it's hard to snap out of it. Like it's a sort of trance. I thought that the ending was very intelligent. They leave it up to you to determine if you think he really is from K-PAX or if he's just crazy. I'm also rather offended by the "typical American" comment. I can understand where such a comment would come from, but it doesn't mean that it's right. Or accurate for that matter.
Well Gore_Won, while we agree on religion(that it sucks) I don't agree with you on the conclusion on this movie, I enjoyed it, I didn't see it as possibly true or real in any way, it's like when I hear someone complaining about the science in Star Trek, which is kind of lame and feels like people are trying to be smarter than they actually are by saying crap like that, Star Wars 3(The old one) is a good movie, but Han Solo says his ship can get from one place to another in a few parsecs, parsecs is a meassure of distance not time, I know that now, but do I feel like critizising the movie for that? Nope, I might say it as a joke but it does nothing to discredit the movie.
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