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WTF???? Please someone explain this movie...


The movie was so interesting and promising but they had to make it totally confusing and stupid..
What's that all about? I was totally confused in the end... Everything seemed to have sence until last quarter of the movie... I lost it totally then..
Was he an alien or not?
Why didnt he go at the end and where that Betty or whatever had dissapeared and why Prot ended up in a wheelchair..???
What is with his notebook he's been writing all time...??
I like this kinda movies but this one left so many questions unanswered?!?!?!

Please someone enlighten me an explain this movie to me...

Thank you so much...

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I think this movie was Awesome for Sci-fi and drama fans!

The thing is Prot was using Robert porter's body as a host and that Porter remained in a state of catatonia before and after Prot was in his body. Just because he was in Porter's body he knows about the tragedy that occurred to him and he can relate to them as well, like with the water sprinklers.

Any patient in any form of post-traumatic stress disorder will know how to eat a banana! And there is no way Robert Porter would have known all the equations and coordinates to K-PAX, just because he had a telescope near-by!

For reality's sake they could have taken a blood report or a full body checkup to see how much human he is!


What if our whole life is a dream and when we die, we actually wake up!

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Here's what we know: He was able to see ultraviolet light which humans can not, he not only knew of the twin star system that supposedly he could not know of, he was able to just whip out the complicated astrophysics of it's planetary orbits, he disappeared for a few days as he said he would when he took his trip up north, and the woman at the end was never found and Prot told the Dr. that now that he had found Robert Porter to please take care of him. Robert Porter was found catatonic after Prot was supposed to have returned to K Pax with the woman. The conclusion this leads me to is that Prot was real and that he was somehow in ''possession'' of Porter's mind and body on earth. Nothing else answers all of these facts in the story other than that. If Porter was merely mentally delusional how would he know of the planets and their orbits? What happened to the woman at the end? If Prot was physically Prot then how did Porter's body remain behind?

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This film is all about family. To spend every moment with them.

We are presented with with one character who lost his family, with his psychological coping-mechanism... AND a character who still has time to rekindle his relationship with his family.

The End.

All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain...

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The movie makes no sense. No amount of reasoning or justifications can change that:


Prot HAD to be from K-Pax, or the scene at the Planetarium could not have happened. Also his ability to detect UV light.

If Prot was somehow a "spirit" as some suggest, using the other guy's body, then he didn't travel through space in flesh form, thus he could not have taken Bess back with him. The idea that Bess would have just walked off, and not almost immediately been found by the police, is absurd.

Also, if Prot was using the "other guy's" body only, then he would not have reacted the way he did with the Doctor's daughter, since HE would not have had that past with his family.

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The movie tries to be clever, leaving the ending open, but instead it weaves an absolutely impossible scenario, and yes it ruined the movie for me.

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Just like when he 'appeared out of nowhere' to the beggar in the train station and just like he 'went north a few days' is how he did it. He moved into Bess's body and traveled out however he traveled here. I would venture to say, that on return to K-PAX, Prot and Bess could separate as K=PAXians take a different form-'whichever is most energy efficient' there. If it is energy or light-based, they no longer need to be 'melded' upon return.

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I think it proves how deeply wounded you can become when you are grieving over something as horrible and tragic as what happen to Pro's family.

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none of the proofs listed in this thread are sufficient to prove he is an alien. not in the slightest. he was a smart guy with years to acquire some information about 'his constellation'. he could have studied, or even stolen the information - hacked it, perhaps. it's not clear how, but it certainly doesn't prove he is an alien.

he is human. he suffered an enormous trauma. quite what happened we'll never know, but it was traumatic enough for him to invent a new identity. albeit one whose name is a rough rearrangement of his original name, prot form porter.

porter had a breakthrough and became catatonic. i think he had always set himself this deadline, five years on, as a time to face what had happened. he allowed himself finally to have the breakthrough he knew he needed, even though he knew it could destroy him by putting him in a trance. his smile at the end of the film shows us that he isn't completely gone, and might even be ok eventually.

he had a remarkable effect on people, and probably set bess the task of leaving, convincing her she'd find a home and happiness, as he did with howie.

this is my interpretation, obviously. you're entitled to think whatever you want. there is in fact no right answer, it's up to the viewer and deliberately ambiguous. i personally find it much more likely, given all he information the film provides, that he is human all along. and it makes for a more interesting experience too.

great film, thoroughly enjoyed it.

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Well, I always thought it was as simple as they kind of screwed up with the plot, and it was supposed to be "no real answer, just leave the viewer to choose" but didn't execute that well at all.

It all tops off at the end, when they show us a damn near impossible coincidence, at the EXACT time he said he returns to K-PAX, down to the minute (5:51) the camera magically shuts off, he's gone catatonic, and Bess is found to have disappeared out of thin air. It may sound like im just saying my view is right, but it just seemed to me the movie's message came out wrong as "you are supposed to believe he's an alien, that's the right answer"

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I agree with SharkSoul and FelixMaybe regarding Prot's story. He said he came to earth periodically; always determined by when his friend had a problem he needed help with. This was the coping mechanism he had developed. He would slip in to this catatonic start for periods but then "snap out of it" and become prot for a period of time. His "prot periods" would always start and end on July 27.
As for Bess, she had been catatonic during prot's stay at the Institution. I believe Bess was now going to embark on a similar pattern as Robert Porter. She was about to go out and touch and inspire people for a period of time. So even though Porter was now no longer the inspiration to people he had been during most of the movie, Bess would now be out sharing her inspiration with others. Who knows, maybe she would eventually do exactly what Porter had done; bring some poor traumatized individual to a point where they to could positively effect others and the world, even if only for short intervals of time in between "coping periods."

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No matter how smart you are, you can't "acquire information" that only 2 or 3 people (according to the film) on the planet know. Not to mention figuring out about a planet in a galaxy that NO ONE on the planet knows about.

"He carries illegal weapons, drives fast cars & wears clothes obviously designed by a homosexual."

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Sounds about right, just another genius guy working at a slaughter house who is immune to thorazine and haldol, can see wavelengths up to 400 angstroms (which is humanly impossible), pull out an unknown formula to accurately map out unknown planets, and can disappear from psyche wards at will and go catatonic for fun at a perfectly planned time when he makes the security camera go out, the sun hit the room, and another patient disappear exactly on time. logical?.... smh

I don't mean to insult your intelligence, but it's not supposed to be a mystery that he's an alien, it is just subtly done, but the facts are rather blatant.

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none of the proofs listed in this thread are sufficient to prove he is an alien. not in the slightest.


Then you obviously haven't been reading the thread then.

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I know this reply is too late, but I watched this movie just now, and want to share my opinion. 'Prot' IS an alien, something like a spirit, from another planet(K-PAX). He somehow happens to know 'Robert Porter'. When Robert Porter's wife && daughter are killed, he kills the person responsible for it. Later, he tried to jump off the cliff. That is when Prot enters his body and tries to stop him. But Robert manages to jump, and he suffers injuries. He is permanently disabled from that moment. Prot goes back to K-PAX. He comes back after 5 years, that is when he meets Dr. Powell. He keeps telling everyone at the hospital that he can take back 'only one person', that is because he can enter into the body of only one person. He cannot stay on Earth all the time, because he has to return to K-PAX. But, he wants to take care of Robert too. That's when Powell finds out about Robert, and assumes that 'Prot' & 'Robert' are the same, and that Robert is just hiding from the cops to get away from the murder charges. When Powell shows the picture of Robert to Prot, Prot replies 'Oh Mark, now that you've found Robert, please take good care of him'. He says that because Prot knows once he leaves Robert's body, Robert will go back to the damaged condition he was in, when he jumped off the cliff. And when Prot leaves, he enters the body of 'Bess' and takes her to K-PAX. THAT, is what he means by 'I can take only one person back to K-PAX'.

That is what I think the movie means. I know there are lots of empty spaces there, and I have no idea how to explain them perfectly.

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This is such a great thread. One can see about 4 theories here, which makes this movie a great as well.

As for theories saying prot can take only one body and that he took Bess with him, just a couple of questions to answer. If Prot can come only as a soul then how come he took Bess with flesh and bone? Prot says he takes human form in earth. Then why would he take human sample in human form to K-PAX? Obviously Prot came to earth many times. So why not take as many humans to K-PAX as possible, one at each time? Why just one?

I'm not proposing any new theory by the way but just can as add more questions for fun.

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I like how the film keeps you guessing. At first I was convinced that Prot was really from K-PAX, but towards the end I realized how Robert Porter's life was the exact opposite of life on K-PAX, which made sense in the context of a escapist delusion. Here's what I mean:

- Porter had a family
- They don't have families on K-PAX

- Porter killed the man who murdered his family
- On K-PAX they don't believe in the "eye for an eye" philosophy

- He worked at a slaughterhouse
- K-Paxeans (or at least Prot) were vegetarians

- Porter was more or less stuck in his surroundings
- Prot could travel freely to wherever he wanted

Perhaps more can be added to the list, but that's what I can come up right now.
Anyway, at the end I was convinced again that Prot was an alien, so perhaps it was this polarity that allowed Porter to mysteriously call Prot. (Some form of quantum entanglement or something like that, haha.)

I also wondered why did Prot have to take Bess's body to K-PAX. According to his explanation, he takes a human form on Earth (by inhabiting an existing body, as we see), so a human should take a K-Paxean form on K-PAX? So how does that work exactly?

There are four K-PAX books, I guess some of the answers can be found there.


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i have additional theory

Robert Porter was a genius counting down to his breakdown .

he was "brainy" as the sheriff said
he learnt about star systems from his father .
he knew how to swing a child under "prot" meaning its not an alien who has no family .

i have an idea of what happend, he made everyone focus on him , while if you notice Dr Mark Powell is running like crazy and didnt lock the doors behind him , and the camera was down in this instance - probably all the cameras were down.

in this moment i think he let bess escape - and maybe even to where he lived ? that is unknown , but the fact remains , he was intelligent enough to give assignments and make all others look on the wrong target while the main target(whatever he chose) he successed to manipulate .

if they would throw one more hint about bess departure it might be less fictional :)

but as much as i want that he will be alien , i think what m-vaskes said adds on to the fact that he was on his way to the breakdown until the end and thats why his alter ego was totally different .

the gap remains though what happend on all those 4 years ? but that is a mystery i dont mind having - its a nice mind trick to play with .

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K-Pax was on TV yesterday - I missed the start. I think the one thing that prevents me from liking this movie enough to own it is the 'hypnosis' trick. I'd decided that Prot took over Porter's body, but that doesn't explain how a human could see UV. Then we're thrown plenty of clues to discredit that idea, Prot/Porter, Porter being an intelligent man with an interest in astronomy, and so on. I guess I need to watch it again carefully, as there are too many unanswered questions for a casual viewing. I like the idea of Prot being what he claims but if not Porter's alternate personality is pretty impressive. After all they thught Kyle Reece was a 'loon' in The Terminator...

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Feel free to like it enough to own it.

There are two main possibilities here: #1 - the alien and #2 - the clinical.

The movie makes it clear that it doesn't want to be too specific about which is correct. Which indeed would make sense for an actual alien visitor in that he wouldn't want to make it too obvious since his purpose there wasn't "First Contact".

If you assume that the Alien theory is correct, it's simply a case that Prot is inhabiting Robert Porter's body. He has the skill to do this without damaging the host body. Presumably there is some sort of energy presence, which would explain the UV sensitivity. They are both able to inhabit the same body at the same time. When the doctor regresses the patient, Prot goes half to sleep and the doctor accesses memories of Robert Porter as the host intermingled. Some would suggest that Porter's rage overpowered Prot and allowed him to kill the murderer, however, Prot's description of the events suggest that he was only called to the scene when he had taken his clothes off and was attempting to commit suicide, so Prot had not been part of that event. Personally, I favor this explanation and view it as the correct one.

If you assume that the clinical theory is correct, the UV sensitivity would have to be a coincidence or an error in testing, possibly by people who were charmed by his personality and wanted to believe his story (although this is not directly suggested by the movie). The knowledge of astrophysics could be ascribed to a man in semi or partially vegetative state gaining a level of "savant" knowledge. Further, the resemblance of the name "Prot" to Porter and possibly also to the word "protector" would suggest a severe dissociative type condition. Robert Porter apparently had suffered at least two traumatic events and these would point to a "protector" type personality as is common with split personality disorder. Personally, I feel that the author intended the clinical approach to be the "red herring" and the Alien approach was the one intended for audiences to assume was the 'correct' one.

However, there's enough here that there's an argument for both sides to find an answer that agrees with their own thinking. And that's pointed to by the scene with the scotch where the doctor hasn't openly accepted that he is an Alien, but appears to know, deep down, that it is true. "I'll accept that I'm Robert Porter if you will accept that I am from K-Pax." or something to that effect.

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It seems he can travel as a soul consciousness in the form of light, which is what he does to come to Earth. Or in the possession of a single vessel (a body) which he does to go back with Bess.

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In short, Prot was an alien host inside Robert's dull body (after the drowning incident). Prot could not have left Robert's body until in good caring hands. He chose Mark. On July 27th he decided to leave Robert's body in hands of Mark.
Since Prot was leaving Robert's body and going to K-Pax, he could one person as a host body (along with him) and it was Bess. So, Bess disappeared along with body. He could not have taken no more than one person, as said by him earlier.
What I deduced is that K-Paxians are higher conscience species who keep visiting earth and help people.

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You got it! ^.^ :)

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The way I see it, Prot was some kind of astral projection of Robert Porter. Under hypnosis, Prot says that he had previously descend into Robert's body when he was 17 and in a crisis in order to help him cope. So I'm thinking: now that Robert's family was killed, he has gone in a catatonic depression, unable to move because of the shock. So this is why Prot has come again to rescue him and brought him to doctor Powell, whom he knew was gonna take care of him after Prot left. So After Prot assures that Robert will be ok, he leaves to go to K-Pax. Robert could also have been a man suffering from what we, here on Earth, call double personality, but from the point the view of the book/movie, the astral projection could have been something that causes double personality (or that they could be somehow connected).
Now, about the girl that disappears with Prot, she seemed like a very spiritual being, not very found of the material world. She didn't even speak, she was kind of ascetic so i'm thinking her leaving was because she reached a state similar to nirvana. An observation that comes in aid of this theory is when Prot says "why is a soap bubble round" and the answer is "because it is the most energy efficient configuration" and that's how he explains why here he looks like us and probably on his planet he's just pure energy. So I'm thinking that's the answer to how Bess disappeared: the "form" in which she presented herself wasn't efficient for her purpose anymore. Also I just remembered when they say about her that she made a fire with the power of thought, meaning she was an extraordinary creature trapped somewhere she didn't belong. But that's just how i see it. What do you think of these explanations?

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This makes sense to me and I'm a bit puzzled that concerning Bess you are the only one thinking a little further (at least publicly on this thread).
My take is that he took her to KPAX for the main reason being that Bess seemed to be able to see him. And he seemed to be able to see (and hear!) her, or else he would not have taken her on the travel.

Most other people on the local playground were not emotionally independent, totally focused on themthelves or both. Most if not all of those people might not have known what Prot said every child knows by instinct, they were far from their nature, they were not ready. And those who might have known it, like the one guy with the three tasks, seemed to have found a place. In his case maybe a place of passive leadership and being of service to the community. He already had found some kind of relief. Also we don't know if he might have enjoyed a planet of lone wolves where noone misses each other and where there is no society, I doubt it.

More important: It was essential for Bess to experience that it is possible for her to be heard, understood and to be seen. You can read quite a lot of her letter, if you pause the film when the people discover her disappearance. She seemed to be more than ready for the next step. Continuing living in a world full of deaf people mostly spinning around themselves being busy with things that are of no importance probably wouldn't have brought her anywhere. And also, Prot said that he will miss the Doctor and that on his Planet there would be noone missing him. I wouldn't assume that Prot only was this holy rescuer that most people see in him, painting a black and white image. Even the most disattached and mature soul has needs, wishes or maybe some curiosity. We don't know. Maybe he wanted to have someone around back home who had also experienced life on earth and taken the positive sides but abandoned all the baggage and crap of our society that he talked of earlier in the movie. Bess held the most potential for this. And she seemed to see him, that's the most important part.

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I would gladly be able to explain this film to you. I may be many years late but I am willing to put in the effort and time and explain the concepts to you. First you must come to terms that the film K-Pax uses a lot of science and logic, but it also uses a lot of spiritual philosophies. Long story short Prot was an "Alien" but Robert Porter was not. Confused? I shall explain.

Hey you never know, maybe I'm an Alien too! *nudge nudge* haha jk. Now on a serious note!

First and foremost have you ever heard of the concept of a "Walk-In"? That is the base premises of what is happening here. A walk-in is the concept where a soul of another being, where it be an extra-terrestrial (politically correct term), spirit, inter-dimensional being, etc enters the body of another living biological being.
Now that you thought about that let's get into the movie. Now we need to look at Prot and Robert Porter as two separate and distinct individuals. This is stated throughout the film. While under hypnosis Prot explains that his friend who he won't name had something really bad happen to him. This friend was "Robert Porter" and he came to his aid. Robert Porter was somehow able to have this telepathic communication with Prot from K-Pax in the Lyra constellation and would call upon him at a time of need. Prot had many of Robert Porters memories because when Prot was on earth, he used Roberts body as a vessel. Earlier in the film Prot states clearly that his people look different from Humans but when they go to other planets because they manifest as if they were a native to that world. How would they do this? Prot talks about light as travel multiple times throughout the film and states how Einstein was correct but misunderstood. He talks about travel with and as light. K-Paxians in other words travel through the Galaxy as light, as in they leave their bodies and travel as a soul essence. Now the concept sounds weird but it is also logical and explains why they can travel so fast without expanding and gaining mass. Also not once through the entire film does Prot even mention or even reference to a spaceship, UFO, flying saucer or whatever you want to call it! The sun rose on the date he claimed he would leave and he leave. As for Bess, she definitely went with Prot but where was her body? Did it somehow transport in it's physical essence? That could be a common error rather than to show her "dead" but in favor to clearly state that she most definitely went to K-Pax. Another theory is that perhaps Prot needed a physical body to travel back and used Bess. That would explain why he could only take ONE person back. All we can say is that they seem to manifest into light and travel between worlds.
Prot's final lines to Dr. Powell was "Please look after Robert Porter for me". This was his final request to Dr. Powell and a favor to his friend Robert. As you recall when the maniac when into his house and was raping and murdering his wife and daughter and Robert came to run to his aid and snapped the maniacs neck. He then proceeded outside dropped to his knees and fell into the sprinkling system which hit him in the head causing major brain damage. Then he proceeded to the river to commit suicide by drowning himself and Prot came to the rescue. Prot mentions that he was friends with Robert earlier on in his life when Robert was still young and had his father, who was murdered. Roberts injuries left him mostly brain dead, he could not walk nor function properly. He is essentially a vegetable and only can recognise subtle things, hence his smile at the end. His body was only functional by a powerful advanced being such as Prot who not only help Robert, but also Dr. Powell and the whole ward.
Prot came to Earth to help Robert as well as study and record date on Earth and the human race. That's why he had his notebook, to record his observations. He was so advanced that everyone else thought he was crazy, and his way of doing things were seen as odd. He knew everything and when he transported to other places like in the observatory, it occurred so fast that it was impossible for any human to prove or perceive. That is the brilliance of this film. He was indeed the real deal, but required viewers to think outside the box to understand and piece it all together.

There is a saying. The most intelligent people often seem the craziest and dysfunctional to our society. We often label them with degrading social status or mental problems because we as a society don't want to accept anyone smarter or better than us. This is a sad fallacy of the human race.

This film is definitely not for everyone as it requires viewers to either have deep knowledge of the universe or have an incredibly open mind. Which of course opens the door to so many debates and other interpretation of the film which ironically are incorrect. A lot of these people are thinking like Dr Powell which is ironic. That being said no Prot did not have any mental disabilities like schizophrenia and of course this is evident by his non-human responses to the drugs and other variables. I am repeating myself just like Dr Powell but Robert Porter had severe brain damage and was a vegetable after the accident exactly 5 years before the ending of the film on July 27th! :)

I hope I was able to help you understand the film better. Sorry if I made it too long and believe me I could have made it longer. I tried to keep it brief while touching all the important factors of the film to answer your questions.

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by Airaku» There is a saying. The most intelligent people often seem the craziest and dysfunctional to our society. We often label them with degrading social status or mental problems because we as a society don't want to accept anyone smarter or better than us. This is a sad fallacy of the human race.


I have a new saying to offer you:

The craziest and most dysfunctional members of society will hallucinate old sayings that don't really exist and will create areas of study, such as human race fallacies, that really don't exist either. And all without reference to any academic study.

I hope you got some sleep and woke up to a fresh cup of coffee the next day after you wrote that little exercise.

Cheers~~

Life is like Wikipedia: There are no Facts, Just Popular Opinion

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Actually it seems to me that you missed the entire point of what I was saying and then pulled a saying out of no where. To the point I would even raise the argument of if you even know what "crazy and dysfunctional" even means. There are tons of studies on this matter as well as human fallacies. If you have taken any Philosophy or Psychology at a university level then you would know. Which I know for fact you have not, otherwise you would have not made such a silly claim, backed by nothing but an insult.

As you may know both Nikola Tesla and Albert Einstein were absolute geniuses but they are considered crazy and both had troubles adapting to basic ideals of a society. In fact I am sure that you are smart enough to actually know the reason for that. It is so sad to even know that people called Einstein "mentally retarded" when he was a child.

Also my reply was not to you, it was to the OP and others who had questions regarding the film. In answered them accordingly using philosophy, phycology, some science, pseudo-science (conceptual), and common sense based on the direction of the film. Clearly this was NOT a film for you as it is based on some very unique concepts. While also using some impressive accurate science based on space which is still ironically relevant today. That is very rare for a film and left me quite impressed.

So why you decided to attack me is beyond my understanding. I would recommend you do some research for a little while. I would go looking for sources but the list would be quite long and it would take up way to much of my time. If you are interested in this subject then there are tons of websites, books, and studies that you can find that will be enough to keep you reading for weeks. As for the quote war? It's not really my thing but here's one you may like “The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts, while the stupid ones are full of confidence.” —Charles Bukowski as well as “The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits.” -Albert Einstein. Please don't let these apply to you.

I do like your signature quote btw. Though while there are indeed facts, there are more opinions. Then there is theory which is a scientific category that almost everything fits into. We drop an object and it falls to the floor, we call that gravity. What causes gravity? Why mass of course as it is universally accepted. However there are actually other theories that make logical sense as well. While mass is still a factor it is only one factor. Another great example is the Big Bang Theory, which is almost laughable. For the Big Bang to occur something much have existed before it (in the nothing) to cause the reaction. Do you even know what nothing is? It is NOTHING, not air, not a single particle or molecule. However it does bring some great debates and some physicist have made very sensible and logical arguments both for and against the big bang. Even things we take for granted like time and does 1+1 really equal 2? Are also theories. So I very much love your quote. What can be a fact? Well if it is in front of you and can be examined and explored with all 5 of your sense then it is in fact there behind you. Also if you bring up the Matrix or Holographic universe.... then you're hopeless and I'm done. Interesting theory though.... I can't deny that.

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