what a waste of clive owen


watching owen in this movie is alot like watching sigourney weaver in vantage point. what an irrelevant character for such a brilliant actor.

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Agreed. The one scene where he actualy spoke was the best of the movie. They shoudn't have killed him off, he would've been a great foil for Bourne Throughout the trilogy.

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Tony Gilroy said in an interview that he watched the first movie again when he was assigned to write the sequel, desperately looking for a way that he could have crawled out of the field.

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He should of!

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Yeah he was wasted in this and should've had more screen time. He could've added depth to the character, but it all depends on the material he was given. He recently did well playing person in a similar type of role in Killer Elite. A film that looks in part influenced by the Bourne films.

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*have.

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I totally agree. I'm a Clive Owen fan and I, too, wish they had kept him on a lot longer than they did. That's an excellent point. That's probably one of the only screwups of this movie.
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I wouldn't call his character irrelevent by any means. The Professor was my favorite part of the movie, and his death has a profound impact on Bourne, which is extremely evident in one of the last scenes of The Bourne Ultimatum.

Clive really did a tremendous job with his one scene of dialogue; great performance, awesome character.

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Please explain.

Well, I hate to give it away, so minor Ultimatum spoiler: -- At the second-to-last scene of Bourne Ultimatum, when Bourne has been corned by the other CIA assassin on top of the roof, Bourne asks him if he even knows why he's supposed to kill him. The assassin pauses, considering it, then Bourne quotes The Professor(Clive Owen)'s dying words: "Look at us. Look at what they make you give." -- The Professor was the first assassin Bourne realised was another person the same as him, and that they both essentially sacrificed their lives to be a tool for the CIA.

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Do you really think so? I hadn't realised, until I saw him in this film, that Owen is at his best when he doesn't have to talk... / elisabet

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[includes spoilers] I thought the same thing at first, but the more one watches his scenes, the more one realizes just how much he brings to that small role.

Think back to his death scene, for example. When asked who else is with him, he tells Bourne something along the lines of "I work alone, like you." The way he delivers that line (and the fact that it's Clive Owen) suggests that everything we had just seen with Bourne (the action, the suspense) has happened to Clive Owen as well. (It reminds me of the moment in Synechdoche, New York when someone remarks that all the supporting actors and bit players play the main role in their own story).

So, because Clive Owen was cast, his death has a much greater impact on the audience than the death of the first assassin (the blonde guy who hilariously falls out of the window).

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Another great review by jonathanara!

I've noticed so many people have so many different types of "witty" signatures

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It's the only movie where I like Clive Owen.

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This.

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Also, aside from multiple people up above me here saying Clive knocked this small role out of the park.. which I do agree with..

This was pretty much his first big budget motion picture.. He wasn't the top billing actor [that he is today] at that time. Hell, this was in the midst of all those Beemer shorts he was doing.

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Exactly. It is like what happened to Damon in Saving Private Ryan. Just like Owen, Damon became a big star after a big budget movie finished shooting.

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I would not say that "Saving Private Ryan" made Damon a big star... a year leading up to Identity, nobody wanted to touch Damon for any movie (he had been in a fair number of flops like "The Legend of Bagger Vance") and when he was cast for the part of Jason Bourne, he had been working on stage in London.

As for Owen, this was probably his break-through part, as before this he had been only in period drama/tv films with nothing really big on his CV... yet within a year of Identity he was in bigger and bigger movies.

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I did not mean that "Saving Private Ryan" made Damon a big star. I meant that he had just won an Oscar for "Good Will Hunting" and now was "bigger" than a bit part in SPR. After SPR, he started getting staring roles but only because of GWH.

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..."yet within a year of Identity he was in bigger and bigger movies."

He was still on an ascendant path in 2001-02. It was a good role for him to take and he made an impact with it.

It wasn't a wasted part at all

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On the one hand I agree that I would like to know/see him more. Then again that's true for the other Treadstone agents as well. The professor just gets the same treatment that every other gets when he finds Bourne. And in a way I like it. Especially since each time Bourne kills one of them, he gets some information that is part of the puzzle. If the Professor would have survived and gotten away, he could tell Bourne too much. It's important for the storyline that the other agents die without much further interaction with Bourne.

I wish the upcoming 4th Bourne movie would be one taking place BEFORE Identity, when Treadstone was intact. We could see the other assets in action and get to know more about them.

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Knowing that Clive Owen had very few scenes, I actually looked forward to each of his scenes, all of which stood out. It made the movie that much more interesting for me. At the end when The Professor asks if he gets the headaches, it makes a profound impact on Bourne. In that scene, Bourne finally meets face to face with someone who's willing to talk more about him.


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I disagree with the OP. It wasnt a waste of Clive, but the exact opposite, a brilliant casting choice and stepping stone for his career. As previous posts stated, Owen wasnt in anything before this, so most people were introduced to him in this film.

And what this film did for Owen's career, I would say Courage Under Fire did for Damons, and not Saving Private Ryan.

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very true.



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