I'm American and I'm not fond of that word, but the way he used it was hilarious. I laugh more at that one scene than any other in the movie. I guess it's his expression and the way he says it.
It's just one word. I understand that it's a curse word, but I don't understand why it's on the same level as say F--k, to tell the truth. And it was used to show that he's not exactly the Prince Charming Bridget's mother thought he was.
I don't remember it well in this movie, but as an American who doesn't hear the word very often, I was surprised to hear it in other British movies. It doesn't really offend me though because I have since learned that Brits don't consider it an offensive word quite like we do, which leads me to believe they aren't using it to be extremely hateful.
Seems Jane Fonda thinks its ok to use the C-word too. She is all class- what a twit. Go away Jane, just go away. YOU DON'T BLURT THE C WORD LIVE ON NATIONAL TV!!! You career is over- er has been over for decades!
I agree. It never really bothered me. You can take anything and be offended. Why worry about it. There is so many things that made me love this movie, why dwell on the bad.
All I know is that in my circle of friends here in America- If you even utter the word you may get slapped.
All American Girls with CLASS do not care for the derogatory term. That was my original point.
Case in point: Usage by Meaning (wiki) Referring to women In referring to a woman, *beep* is an abusive term usually considered the most offensive word in that context and even more forceful than bitch.[33] In the film One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, the central character McMurphy, when pressed to explain exactly why he doesn't like the tyrannical Nurse Ratched, says, "she's something of a *beep* ain't she, Doc?"[34] It can also be used to imply that the sexual act is the primary function of a woman; for example, see below in relation to Saturday Night Fever. In 2004, University of Colorado president Elizabeth Hoffman fanned the flames of a football rape case when, during a deposition, she was asked if she thought *beep* was a "filthy and vile" word. She replied that it was a "swear word" but had "actually heard it used as a term of endearment".[35] A spokesperson later clarified that Hoffman meant the word had polite meanings in its original use centuries ago. In the rape case, a CU football player had allegedly called female player Katie Hnida a *beep* lovely *beep* Similarly, during the UK Oz trial for obscenity in 1971, prosecuting counsel asked writer George Melly "Would you call your 10-year-old daughter a *beep* Melly replied "No, because I don't think she is."[36]
I'm actually "here in America" and I understnand what you're saying. And I agree to a point. But uhm to me it's more like the use of the word *beep*
I don't personally use it- I don't like it. I'm not black but I just don't like it. I won't risk using it EVEN for fun.
But I've got black friends who use it all the time. Sure it may seem "counter productive" but I do also realize that they use it in a different way- as a way of calling each other as in comraderie or just as a term. While it may not be entirely "smart" to do that, it's not being used in a way that's derogatory.
While the actual word *beep* is originally used derogatory fashion it's not necessary that it's used that way. Again, while I agree with you, I don't feel it's positive reinforcement to empower terms such as *beep* and *beep* but uhm I also don't feel it's necessary to have to be restrictful/fearful/censor-y with words.
Sure, use other words to describe what have you but again... if we censor certain "terms" what else is next.
Just my two cents. I'm not even sure if you were replying to me jabacab specifically. :)
Regards, Mary
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It's a fun/ny word, especially when Brits say it. I don't personally say it, but anybody who would slap someone over it deserves to be slapped themselves. You & your circle of friends are such American stereotypes, too uptight.
You know what I've just realised- depending on how fast we may be speaking, people from Yorkshire say c unt for 'couldn't'. Same as wunt for wouldn't, etc. Ugh, we're so crude
Fry doesn't have beer goggles. He has Madeira Pince-nez
Slapped over the use of a word! Is that what passes for class in your world?
That the word is a vulgarity no-one is denying but is really any more offensive than any other vulgar term for someone's genitals?
I understand that as an insult it is reserved almost exclusively for women in the US whereas here (UK) it is a far more unisex term, being used mostly as a term of endearment between male friends.
I once got an outrageous laugh from a panel at a job interview when asked by the respectable old buffer chairing:
"How would your best friend describe you?"
I sat for a couple seconds looked him square in the eye, smiled and I replied "He'd probably say that I'm a *beep*
The 3 interviewers burst out laughing...I got the job too!
Still I have to ask why you find the word hateful?
It's a derogatory term used for women if it is directed at one in a deorgatory way! If not, then it is simply a swear word that people use for different effects; most of the time for comedic effect, as in this film. Is it offensive sometimes? Yes. Is it always? No
Ergo= shut up
[Stephen] Fry doesn't have beer goggles. He has Madeira Pince-nez