I feel like this is the kind of movie that should have affected me to my core, because its substance is more than what meets the eye. But, for the life of me, I can't figure out what that "more" is.
Here's what I've been able to put together so far:
1. There's serious risk inherent in relationships built on superficial bases and "blind" love.
That's it. But, it still doesn't explain the chronological hodgepodge that was the last 30 minutes or so (or maybe it does and I don't see it?). It also doesn't take his "widower" status into account. Does the message involve a warning about moving on after the untimely end of a first marriage? I don't see any stigma surrounding that behavior in the West (certainly not in the States), but maybe such a stigma exists in Japan?
The lead actress and director both indicated that it should make men fear women. That made me think of Teeth. But, Aoyama seemed like a good guy, so it didn't seem like "just punishment" was part of this movie's message. Another thing that occurred to me is that it might warn us that people's most serious and destructive issues lie so far beneath their surfaces that audition-style socializing (using superficial or shallow personal cues to form the basis of "love") couldn't possibly reveal them.
Please, somebody respond with their take on what this movie was about. It can't just be about an unlucky guy who gets tortured by a psycho with a rocky past.
I just watched this film for a film class. This is what we went over, and I hope it helps:
1. Everything in the last 20 minutes is Aoyama's dream, basically everything after they get to the hotel, she shows him the scar, they are about to have sex. The only "reality" is when he awakens. Then again, more of the film is probably subjective than it may seem, such as when it appears the man working at the restaurant and hearing the conversation about the audition is judging them. He appears later in the film, in the room with the man in the wheelchair. Aoyama fills in all the blanks about Yoshikawa in his mind.
2. Aoyama seems like the nice guy, but is he really? Think about how he speaks of women. He says he wants someone confident, but he's infatuated with the obedient, passive girl. He held an audition to pick out a wife, asking and listening (from his friend) to a number of pretty degrading questions. Then he chooses which one he "wants". Do you see the darker misogyny and misuse? It's something that's laughed about in romantic comedies, the way women are treated. But this film examines it from another angle.
3. He doesn't treat any of the women in the film well at all. He's pretty rude to them, actually. His secretary, who it's hinted he's slept with and ignored. The girlfriend of his son. Really any woman he comes in contact with.
4. The dreams, the fears, are his projections. The sickness of them...perhaps his own sadistic sexual desires. Remember when the son's girlfriend is giving him a blowjob in the dream, and at first he succumbs to it, but then pulls away all "This is wrong, this is wrong"?
5. His opinions about life (Enjoy the pain, that's life...which comes back to haunt him in the dream sequence....Life is beautiful) contradict, as again do his views on the ideal woman.
I don't think the film is a warning, I think it's a reflection on the role of women in Japanese society and how they are viewed/treated, as well as the concept of the female as the monster put into question.
You might be right, but only if you take the european and american standards here. But you must take into consideration, that this is a completely different culture here, and needs to be treated accordingly. The way that men behave with women, and generally the state of women are completely different in asian countries. The idea of an audition to choose a wife might seem completely ok for an asian, as most of the marriages were arranged, and are even today, through agencies or whatever. The idea and idealization of a woman, of a wife, just applies to this. Like choosing a wife from a catalogue. They are just used to that. If you live in a society that has had the custom of arranged marriages (even of completely strangers) for 2000 years, it wouldn't seem strange to you either. (and one might take other arguments here, like the medieval society of japanese and all that stuff) This is the same to the 'rudeness' you said- asian people, especially japanese, tend to keep a great distance, they are rather cold. However, your 5. argument has something in it! Aoyama has been repeating "enjoy life, enjoy pain" stuff too much, his dream must have had some reflection to this! Apart from this, i wouldn't think he might be a monster, or at least not in his own, japanese context.
Also, I have to disagree about what appears to be the director hinting that women should be feared.
I think the idea that the woman is to be feared, which is subjective to the voyeuristic male eye that dominates the film (and much of cinema in general), is questioned strongly in this film.
I think it's a commentary on how women are treated. I don't think the director was trying to say what happened is normal. How we choose our partners might be a cultural thing, as well as how we reserve ourselves.
I think a line is drawn when he becomes decietful for his own personal benefit. A parallell is drawn between Aoyama's former abuser and the films central character. He had set up an audition, fueling her hopes and dreams of becoming a star (like the Julia Roberts reference in the radio commercial scene). All the time his real intentions are to lure in a sexual partner. In other words exerting his power in a position of authority (A film producer/A ballet instructor) whilst selfishly disregarding gentle woman's longing for her dreams to be fulfilled. Not much different for her former dreams of not being abused (when she makes up cover stories at the start).
I also think the last 20 minutes are a dream and these are subconcious thoughts rendering in his head whilst dealing with the guilt he faces (he knows he decieved her while setting up the competion) when he finds out Aoyama's past in the cabin.
I really don't think there should be any "deep message" in a film like this. A movie like this is usually made for the sole purpose of entertainment. Although you might be able to dig a "meaning" or a "message" out of it, I don't think in a movie like this, it was intended by the director or anybody else. Clarification: I'm not saying it's not a good movie! It obviously is and I loved it! I'm just saying not every movie should have a deeper meaning to what you see, especially a horror film!
Miike isn't really a "horror film director" though...he is very intelligent and one of Japan's best modern directors, I don't believe it would be trite to finding meaning in such a visionaries films
I always thought it was simply a metaphor for guilt and fear. The guilt he feels about moving on from his recently deceased wife, and the fear of moving on into a new relationship, and the emotional and psychological(perhaps even physical)risks that one takes in doing so.
Well i remember a scene , i cannot findit now in this movie , maybe they cut it , when in the end of the film he remebers that she had said to him she was violent during the interview , but he was in love and he did not hear it. With this scene the movie has a meaning.. without it i found it a bit weird too.
There were tons of such movies out there before this and after this but with one exception, it was ALWAYS a man as the bad guy who stalks/tortures& kills women. This one is to show that woman are also capable of torturing, after having a gruesome experience.
This girl was *beep* up and goes all psycho on him, nothing else.