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Audition is a very provocative brutal film with no message or reason.

posted 12 years ago by naak00
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SPOILERS!!!

Ok. So this is a film about a girl who twists men to having sex with her and then cuts their legs,tongue,fingers puts them in a bag and make them live like moles. Oh, before that she causes extreme pain to them as well. Why ? Do they rape her ? Do they make a bad move on her? Do they treat her badly? No. They just try and build a healthy relationship with her and eventually have sex with her. I don't actually know if the previous movie producer did that but i perfectly know Aoyama did that. 1,30 hour of an old man trying to find a glimpse of hope in his unfortunate life and 20 minutes of unspeakable torture and brutality. I have nothing against brutality in films. I sort of enjoy brutality in films. But until a point. AND MOST OF ALL WITH A *beep* REASON. This was totally uncalled and deeply disturbing. I cannot call art or a fine film a movie that shows this amount of violence for no reason at all. I know we live in a brutal brutal world but brutal films must have a message to say at the end. The message of "don't try to bang wannabe actresses without promising them a role but just trying to build a relationship with them because excruciating pain awaits you" is stupid. And provocative. Pure provocation without any particular reason.

I KNOW WHAT THE DIRECTOR HAS SAID! YOU KNOW WHAT? I don't care about the director saying that the torture scene is a dream and giving a psychoanalytic charm to the movie. There were signs of this not being a dream all along :

*the girl sitting next to the bag waiting for the telephone in the beggining
*Mr. shimada
*the murder in the bar with the extra organs
*this girl not having anything at all NOT suspicious in her life
*the girl not trying to get the part and just trying to lure someone of the two producers with her silly sexy (for the japanese) way of talking and interracting with people

A guilt complex in a dream cannot be the correct explanation with so many things pointing out the torture did happen in real life.

All i am saying is brutality is an extreme way of making a point of so many things. Why waste it on pleasing the sadists and the mazochists of this world.

[–] AtheistRevolution 11 years ago

This movie was like torture porn.

- Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful.

[–] slazev 11 years ago

You're confused.

Torture porn is Saw and Hostel.

[–] xakanis 11 years ago

You and most people in here missed the message.

The man was basically 'trying' out the various women in his life and having sexual relations with them. The way it was edited with his final flash of thoughts leads me to believe this-it all happened in the past maybe.

So isn't it fitting that the latest girl he 'auditions' gives him karmic justice? She's trying him out for size in a manipulative way just as he has done to other women (obviously more extreme ofcourse).

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[–] paintedbird 11 years ago

I agree, Miike is a sicko. Just like Eli Roth and all the other torture porn psychos out there who are deserving of some karmic justice.

[–] eru0527 11 years ago

It has a message, "you have to experience suffering to experience ultimate happiness, so push through the unhappy parts in your life and there will be considerable light in comparison"

and turned on it's axis

"don't be unhappy or do self-destructive things like hurting yourself, since what you have now is nothing compared to real suffering (tortured/abuse by stepfather, being a cripple)"

At least that's what I take away from it.

[–] purple66 11 years ago

ikr, I feel the same; The end seemed kinda weird to me.

Did the director really say that the torture was a dream?? Didn't seem like it to me.

[–] kareninflorida 10 years ago

Are you also disturbed and outraged by movies where a male systematically brutalizes, tortures and murders innocent females for no reason? Or is that the kind of brutality in films that you "sort of enjoy"? And for that matter, how about the thousands of real-life cases of men who have systematically kidnapped, enslaved, raped, tortured, brutalized, and/or killed innocent girls and women for no reason? And still, film makers continue to crank out movie after movie sexualizing and sensationalizing male violence against females. Yet this one movie where the tables are turned - this is the one you dub provocative and find upsetting?

Apparently, you're not alone, as I read that horror directors Eli Roth, John Landis and Rob Zombie claimed to have found the film very difficult to watch, given its grisly content. And John Landis said that the film was so disturbing that he could not enjoy it at all. I submit that they would not have found it disturbing at all if it had been the typical male slasher film. Perhaps it would have been more "enjoyable" and less shocking for everyone if it had been the usual: a woman being drugged, tortured, and carved up by a man.

[–] chris-shannahan-363-205676 10 years ago

Don't turn this into a topic about the sexes, please. There is no need for it and it's uncalled for. No one said it would be less disturbing if it was a man doing the torturing. I think it would have been far more disturbing if it was the male doing the torturing, but it wasn't, it was the girl. And yes what she did was very disturbing. It seems you have some very serious issues going from your post. Please, just go away, you're input is not needed.

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