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Anyone else experience Irish hate today?


My dad hated the Irish with a passion. I even remember him actually calling them the n word once. I'm proud to be Irish though, and if someone has a problem with it, they can meet my Irish fist.

What about you guys?

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How can you be Irish if your Dad isn't?

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On my mother's side, of course...

"A true leader does what is right, no matter what others think." - Dumbledore

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So your dad married your mother whos irish, but he himself hates the irish??????????????????????

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Yeah, he was an ahole. What's so hard to believe? Mom divorced him years ago. Jesus. It's not that hard to wrap your head around.

"A true leader does what is right, no matter what others think." - Dumbledore

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Your dad hated the Irish "with a passion" but married an Irish woman? lol

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Seems like Irish-ness is back in, this day and age, with the LOTR/Cosplay/D&D crowd. Every college campus has a kid who walks around in a kilt to be cool.

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Kilts are worn by Scotts

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You have to admit that there is some sad irony in that ><

“It has been my philosophy of life that difficulties vanish when faced boldly.”
― Isaac Asimov

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Being both Italian and Irish (among other things), I've been on the receiving end of hatred for both. Fortunately though, I don't really care enough to be bothered by it. Life's too short to be so preoccupied by such silly things.

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I'm sorry, but you're experiencing hatred for your Irish and Italian descent? And not actually being either Irish or Italian. Some people I've noticed, usually Irish-Americans have a chip on their shoulder about being ''hated'' for being ''Irish'', when they're not Irish at all.

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I think you missed my point.

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That is an ignorant and stupid remark, it clearly shows that you know nothing of Ireland's contribution to the world. Here are some people for you.

Ernest Shackleton: Explorer, first man to reach the South Pole

Arthur Wellesley "Duke of Wellington": Irish Soldier and politician who became Prime minister of Britain and also defeated Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo

Bram Stoker: Novelist who wrote Dracula

James Joyce: Novelist and poet, wrote Ulysess

Oscar Wilde: Novelist and poet, wrote Dorian Gray

W.B. Yeats: Writer and Poet,

Jonathan Swift: Novelist, wrote Gulliver's Travels

George Boole: Mathematician, invented Boolean Algebra

Robert Boyle: Invented Boyle's Law, father of modern chemistry

George Stooney: Physicist, discovered electrons

John Tyndall: Phyicist, discovered the Greenhouse Effect, colarescence, Tyndall Effect, invented the nephelometer and turbidimeter, father of the ultramicroscope, invented the fireman's respirator, thermophoresis

George Gabriel Stokes: Physicist, Mathematician, created Stoke's Law for fluid dynamics, discovered fluorescence

Saint Brendan: missionary and navigator

Columbanus: Missionary, founded countless monastery's across Europe in the DArk Ages that became bastions of education

Vergilius of Salzburg: missionary and astronomer

John Stewart Bell: Quantum Physicist, created Bell's Theorem

Jocelyn Bell Burnell: Astrophysicist and noble prize winner, discovered pulsars

Nicholas Callan: Scientist, invented induction coil

Aeneas Coffey: Inventor of the column still.

Harry Ferguson: Inventor and engineer, created modern tractor

Ernest Walton: Physicist and Nobel laureate, first person in history to split the atom.

CS. Lewis: Novelist, wrote Chronicles of Narnia

Louis Brennan: Engineer, invented first guided missile

John Philip Holland: Engineer, developed the first submarine to be formally commissioned by the U.S. Navy

James Hoban: Architect, designed the White House

And that is just a few so put in your pipe and smoke it.




Saint Kilian: missionary

Laurence Sterne: novelist

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That is an ignorant and stupid remark, it clearly shows that you know nothing of Ireland's contribution to the world. Here are some people for you.

Ernest Shackleton: Explorer, first man to reach the South Pole

Arthur Wellesley "Duke of Wellington": Irish Soldier and politician who became Prime minister of Britain and also defeated Napoleon at the Battle of Waterloo

Bram Stoker: Novelist who wrote Dracula


James Joyce: Novelist and poet, wrote Ulysess

Oscar Wilde: Novelist and poet, wrote Dorian Gray

W.B. Yeats: Writer and Poet,

Jonathan Swift: Novelist, wrote Gulliver's Travels


George Boole: Mathematician, invented Boolean Algebra

Robert Boyle: Invented Boyle's Law, father of modern chemistry

George Stoney: Physicist, discovered electrons

John Tyndall: Phyicist, discovered the Greenhouse Effect, colarescence, Tyndall Effect, invented the nephelometer and turbidimeter, father of the ultramicroscope, invented the fireman's respirator, thermophoresis

George Gabriel Stokes: Physicist, Mathematician, created Stoke's Law for fluid dynamics, discovered fluorescence


Saint Brendan: missionary and navigator

Columbanus: Missionary, founded countless monastery's across Europe in the DArk Ages that became bastions of education

Vergilius of Salzburg: missionary and astronomer

John Stewart Bell: Quantum Physicist, created Bell's Theorem

Jocelyn Bell Burnell: Astrophysicist and noble prize winner, discovered pulsars


Nicholas Callan: Scientist, invented induction coil

Aeneas Coffey: Inventor of the column still.

Harry Ferguson: Inventor and engineer, created modern tractor

Ernest Walton: Physicist and Nobel laureate, first person in history to split the atom.

CS. Lewis: Novelist, wrote Chronicles of Narnia


Louis Brennan: Engineer, invented first guided missile

John Philip Holland: Engineer, developed the first submarine to be formally commissioned by the U.S. Navy

James Hoban: Architect, designed the White House

And that is just a few so put in your pipe and smoke it.




Saint Kilian: missionary

Laurence Sterne: novelist




Bold indicates Anglo-Irish or Ulster Scots (Irish people of British descent). They all achieved success whilst based in Britain.

George Boole was English.

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How many times have you been to Ireland?

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Your personal history is a perfect example of intra-race hate, when people who outwardly resemble each other exhibit extreme animus and even hate. In our over-heated politically correct obsessed country of over-emphasized and deliberately manufactured race friction between whites, Hispanics, and blacks, everyone forgets that historically, more people died at the hands of people from a similar race or ethnic background.

A person in China would be doubly perplexed at your father raging at Irish people. The Chinese person would not understand a white man hating white people, any more than your father would understand an Asian person killing another Asian person out of ethnic hate. The 1992 civil war in the former Yugoslavia was a horrendous example of white-on-white hate killing. The atrocities of black African-on-black African killings in Africa continue today. Even in the USA, a young black American male is 23 times more likely to be slain by a fellow black American male than from a white man. Yet everybody appears to be deliberately blind to same race/same ethnic background animosity and violence. It has to be white on black to get media attention today, and I didn't write, black on white, which doesn't get media attention because of political correctness and white left-wing guilt obsession.

That all said, my final point is that I read a lot of history and am aware of the prejudice that Irish people faced in Ireland and then in early America. But still the Irish have triumphed.

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im part Irish and if were being honest with our selves they are kid of shanty.


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I'm an American. My ancestors were....wait nobody cares. I'm white, to the rest of the world, that's all they need.

It was really fun when my family was tracing back our ancestory. But at the end of the day me claiming to be Scottish or English would look silly. I was born here. I'm just an American.

Plus, you look really stupid to real Scottish, English, or French people.

In America a big thing is claiming to have Native American blood. Most of these people don't have proof. It's just something they've been told.

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Great post. You cant be Irish if you are American. You are either one or the other. I have some Irish and Welsh blood in me but I'm English.

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Does anyone really care? I'm Irish born, bred and living and I couldn't give two shít's who does or doesn't like us.

Your's sincerely, General Joseph Liebgott

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Yorkish 25%
Irish 25%
Welshish 50%

Total = 100% Americanish, born and raised, proud of it.

All these hypenated ethnic descriptions and all the "ishes" is just a bunch BSish.


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I think you bring up an important point. I am a third generation immigrant of several European countries including Ireland, but I could probably tell people that I am part(insert any white european country) and they wouldnt question it. Its hard to hate and discriminate against someone if you have to ask them what they are first.

I respect my ancestor's culture and I try hard to remain a part of it, but at the end of the day I can't pass for anything other than American.

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Never experienced it at all

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I've experienced "Irish hate", in a way. My family is Asian and every time we go to our predominantly Irish Catholic church, you Irishmen and women refuse to shake our hands. It never fails. So much for exchanging the sign of peace! In fairness, though, I'm talking about Irish-Americans. The Irish I've met who are actually from Ireland have been friendlier.

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Well grandparents never had a fondness for the Irish, well mainly Catholics in general. But my family is a bunch of old school WASPS though. All my grandparents and great uncles had a low opinion of Irish/Italian/Polish people. Mainly as they worked cheaper and harder then they did and took the jobs. Pretty much what goes on today with how people view Mexicans/Latinos. Just the way it was….i myself never cared. My wife is part Irish and a catholic, well I did get her to join Protestant as she never really cared anyways.

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