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Operation Barbarossa Prevented Stalin's Invasion Of Europe


A number of Russian historians have come to the conclusion that Stalin was preparing to invade Germany and Romania and with his Operation Barbarossa Hitler beat him to the punch. The code name for this invasion was Operatsiya Groza (Operation Thunderstorm). Two of the Russian historians who support this are Viktor Suvorov http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Suvorovand Igor Bunich http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Igor_Bunich
It is simply not true to say that the USSR was neutral until the German invasion. In 1939 the Soviet Union invaded Poland and Finland, in 1940 Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Romania and even after the soviet-nazi war started invaded Iran in 1941. A thread on Operation Barbarossa being a preventive attack - http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

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The Chief Culprit - Stalin's Grand Design to Start World War II by Viktor Suvorov goes into detail about how Operation Barbarossa was a preventive attack - www.amazon.com/Chief-Culprit-Stalins-Grand-Design/dp/1591148065/ I am amazed at how people still accept communist propaganda at face value especially that of the USSR being the victim of "unprovoked aggression". Remember that for 50 years the Soviet Union swore that it was the Germans who committed the Katyn massacre of Polish officers when they knew it was they themselves who committed this crime Mikhail Gorbachev admitting as much in 1990. www.katyn.org.au The Chief Culprit by Viktor Suvorov proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Operation Barbarossa was preventive in nature - http://forum.codoh.com/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=7999

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I think most people know that USSR was never neutral but was actually Hitler's ally until 1939. They had a pact and an agreement to divide the countries between Germany and USSR into spheres of influence. Actually for time of 1 year at least the Russians were occupying Poland on their side while Germany was occupying Poland on another.
This Molotov Ribentrop Pact was also the reason why ussr was absolutely unprepared for war, had. I tanks and instead sent millions of unprepared soldiers to certain death as they raised industry in Siberia and those areas across Volga river where it took them about two whole years to get their first mass produced tanks and weapons.

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They were in the middle of preparing for an attack, been in an attacking posture and defensive are two different things, the fact the germans captured so many soviet troops early on is evidence enough they had mobilised a massive force near the border in poland.

Until this came up I always thought was odd that Hitler very suddenly stopped preparing to invade England, however once I was aware of this evidence it made perfect sense.

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I have not doubt that Stalin would of attacked Nazi Europe, but not before Hitler had taken care of the British.

If it was a preemptive attack it was years in advance of any Soviet attack on Europe.

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I believe Hitler knew the Soviets were coming and like any sensible person, he wanted to stop them from invading Germany first. Why would he want Stalin to do to Germany what they had already done to other cultures that wouldn't convert to Communism. And no one else cared about stopping them. And I bet that was the biggest reason the Nazis started the war.

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Newsflash: The Soviet Union was in Europe.



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Truth is there is very little evidence that the Soviets were planning an offensive in 1941. Eventually -- sure. I think both sides knew that war would eventually come and even Stalin saw the non-aggression pact as temporary.

It is clear however, that Hitler planned Barbarossa for a long time and saw it as a way to force Britain to the peace table -- Hitler figured if the USSR fell, the British would realize that further hostilities were useless and hence be willing to sign a peace agreement frankly favorable to Britain. Britain would keep its fleet and its colonies. No portion of British territory would be occupied. Not bad unless you realize that British policy since forever was to ensure that (i) no hostile nation held the invasion ports of Antwerp and Amsterdam and (ii) that no continental power dominate the continent. Even a favorable peace offer from Germany would keep the ports in German hands and Germany dominating the continent.

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I find this unlikely. The Russian military was woefully unprepared for Hitlers invasion, many of their best commanders and officers had been executed in Stalins paranoid purges and their much of their equipment was obsolete. They had performed terribly in the winter war against Finland, having their arses handed to them by a far smaller foe and only finally winning by weight of numbers. This hardly sounds like a country ready to roll over Europe. Later on and with a great deal of help from England and the U.S. they did perform heroic feats to drive back the Germans but early on in the war they were pretty hopeless.

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