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ARE LOVERS OF THIS FILM JUST CHILDISH?


I'm getting increasingly confused by conflicting reviews. Nobody gives their age, qualifications, profession or favourite film. The "Lovers" and "Haters" reviews just contradict each other, for no apparent reason.

I'm 70, with an MA in sociology and psychology, am a retired teacher and my favourite film is "LA Confidential".

I've seen "28 Days" twice. The first time on TV and the second, just recently on rented DVD, having forgotten I'd already seen it.

The first time I saw it I struggled through it for being a devoted Bullock fan.

The second time, as I started to realize that I'd already seen it, I also found that I could not believe how utterly stupid it was.

The fact that the beginning is, for some reason, an exact copy of "Four Weddings and a Funeral" (which was very good) is by the way, but very unsettling, nonetheless.

If I can centre on just one of its many faults can I point out that a person who is drunk does not necessarily keep giggling inanely at everything she does wrong, including wrecking her sister's wedding cake. She is equally capable of becoming regretful and frustrated and saying *beep* or *beep* it!", very loudly, which might have seemed more convincing in this case, in the light of her being devoted to her sister and not really wanting to wreck her reception.

Is it then safe for me to assume that the "Haters" of this film are mature and that the "Lovers" are childish?

Having said which, does this, then, help me to know to whom I should turn for a reliable review of "Birth", where I notice the reviews are equally contradictory?

Half the films I rent on DVD turn out to be rubbish. It's not as if they are free. I'm starting to think I'd be better of getting books from the library. They are free and I can give them the once over before I borrow them. It's all very frustrating.

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Just how far up your own arse are you?

If you don't like the film, fair enough. Not everyone likes the same thing and if they did, then we would live in a very boring world. But why come onto this forum and insult people who do like it.

I know that I am not childish - my tastes are not childish - but I like this film. So how do I fit into your neat analogy?

I think you should maybe go with your instinct and just start borrowing books. Maybe you're not one for the film world.

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Hi J

Thank you for your vulgar contribution to the discussion on this thread.

>Just how far up your own arse are you? I know that I am not childish. I liked this film.

And vulgarity is mature is it?




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You are more than welcome.

How about focussing on some of my other comments and offering a retort to those?

And by the way, you misquoted me.

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Hi J,

>And by the way, you misquoted me.

I doubt it.

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Hello!
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I was at that time, trying to find out how I could judge other people’s reviews so that I could find somebody I could trust, but I’ve given up.
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(quote from George-parker183)

This sounds very familiar to me. Now and then I stumble upon persons who write good and inspiring comments on ImdB. Oftenly it happens that those persons write very seldomly (or just quit), or turn to write more about films I'm not interested in. Or I for other reasons lose interest in or start to disagree with the person. It takes time and effort to look for and keep update with discussions on film. It's a bit sad that I haven't found one special forum or medium that really "speaks to ME", but I have to say I find "pearls" in unexpected places. It is important not to lose hope.
One of the great things with ImdB-discussions is that people have opened my eyes for new things I haven't seen in a film before.

Sometimes I would like to know people's favourite films, and some kind of background info... This because it makes what she/he says easier to understand, risks for misunderstandings would be fewer, and a relation of trust is created in the discussion.
But it also distresses me when I notice that my listening is corrupted because of how I focus on (irrelevant?) background information (Questions occur: Do I listen carefully? Take her seriously? Accept her ideas?).
The little I know about people on ImdB is fragmentary, and that information can be misleading. The ImdB discussions are characterized by fragmentation and it is easy to light-heartedly dismiss a person that has different films than you on her top 10-list.
(Besides, who am I to complain about uninteresting discussions and persons on ImdB. My posting-history is both varied and many times questionable... )

What I'm saying is that film-discussions here are different on ImdB than those we have with friends we know over a cup of coffee... This was a lot more difficult subject than what I thought when I started writing.

I looked on the 28 Days-board because I was strangely amused by this film and wanted to see what others saw in it.
Very few romantic comedies are among my favourite films. But some of the characters in 28 days were simply hilarious and the chemistry between them was wonderful. I haven't given the alcoholism-story of the film much thought. I wasn't offended by simplification or sentimentality in it, I was touched by these people's stories and especially the humour in the film warmed my heart. The scene when Gerhardt, with his dog and his dying plant, meets Gwen again is just adorable.

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Hi U

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to the discussion on this thread.

> It's a bit sad that I haven't found one special forum or medium that really "speaks to ME",

Guess I’ve got to agree with that.

>I looked on the 28 Days-board because I was strangely amused by this film and wanted to see what others saw in it.

It seemed a bit unreal to me, even the first time I watched it, when I actually persevered to the end.

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You did. It's called reading - if you *read* what I wrote, you will see you misquoted me.

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Hi J

Thank you for your unretracted vulgar contribution to the discussion on this thread.

Well here’s what you wrote:

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“Just how far up your own arse are you?

If you don't like the film, fair enough. Not everyone likes the same thing and if they did, then we would live in a very boring world. But why come onto this forum and insult people who do like it.

I know that I am not childish - my tastes are not childish - but I like this film. So how do I fit into your neat analogy?

I think you should maybe go with your instinct and just start borrowing books. Maybe you're not one for the film world.”
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And here’s what I quoted:

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“Just how far up your own arse are you? I know that I am not childish. I liked this film.”
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Where’s the misquote?

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I know that I am not childish - my tastes are not childish - but I like this film. So how do I fit into your neat analogy?

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And here’s what I quoted:

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“Just how far up your own arse are you? I know that I am not childish. I liked this film.”



Read it!

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With talk of things disappearing up arses you must be a fellow Brit!

This is the most entertaining thread I've been in for a while. Me arse!

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Hi J,

Sorry, I'm lost.

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Hi G,

What no apology for vulgarity?

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In the UK this is a very common phrase that isn't considered vulgar.

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Hi P

>by - PuddleMonkey 36 minutes ago (Thu Jan 5 2006 10:18:22) Ignore this User | Report Abuse
>In the UK this is a very common phrase that isn't considered vulgar.

I’m probably getting confused between contributors because they’re not making clear to what they are referring. The vulgarity to which I was referring appears in the post below.

How about visiting my thread in “Man on Fire” called “Why didn’t the film end like this”? I’d be interested to hear your reaction.

by - JezzyV 5 days ago (Sat Dec 31 2005 10:24:34) Ignore this User | Report Abuse
>Just how far up your own arse are you?

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being a recovering addict , 28 days is a great reminder of how my life was in the "hay day" of my partying. in my opinion this movie kindda made it easier for 2 of my friends to accept they had a problem and asked for help at a rehab center. it isnt a "acadamy award " winner but it is a realistic story of how your life can turn sour and not even notice it.

george - you really need a life to spend so much time on a subject that you have no idea what its about ( go hump benny hills leg )

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Hi B,

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to the discussion on this thread.

>being a recovering addict , 28 days is a great reminder of how my life was in the "hay day" of my partying. in my opinion this movie kindda made it easier for 2 of my friends to accept they had a problem and asked for help at a rehab center. it isnt a "acadamy award " winner but it is a realistic story of how your life can turn sour and not even notice it.

That’s interesting. Another vote for “lovers of this film are addicts or related to them”.

>george - you really need a life to spend so much time on a subject that you have no idea what its about

But how do you find out if you don’t ask?

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Hi Z

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to the discussion on this thread.

>I am one of the childish ones,

Not mine. I’m only asking the question. Presumably your answer is, no.

>This film is IMHO a creditable attempt to portray a reality many people face,

OK, but my question only related to the first five minutes.

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I'm 45 and I really liked this film (won't elaborate, but it's just to say that mature people CAN like it). I don't know about your public library but mine has dozens of DVDs to check out....many Criterion titles, too.

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Hi Q

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to the discussion on this thread.

>I'm 45 and I really liked this film (won't elaborate, but it's just to say that mature people CAN like it

As many have said before you, but what about the first five minutes, that wasn’t very plausible was it, or was it?

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Well what first caught my I when browsing through the boards on this section of the page was the word "childish" which typically is something that a troll would use, but as I entered into this I realized that was not the case so I gave it a chance. Apparently it was a good decision considering how I will now be able to join this board without regret.

Secondly I would like to cmmend you George for sticking with a post this long and staying so involved with it. Im sure retirment has its perks and this is probably one of them, so a pat on the back to you sir for having stuck with us so long.

Now, into the meat of the question posed. First some background information.

I am a 17 year old male from Westampton NJ, I plan on majoring in film and minor in pysch at NYU. If not there I will proceed to the Philadelphia institute of the arts or the University of Santa Fe.

I think the problem encountered in your question is the phrasing, I am considered by many a child, but not considered childish (If this has already been addresed please forgive me I didn't read every post) age doesn't determine maturity and vice versa.

I enjoy this movie because I think that there was some solid acting behind it, and it avoided cliches. I also think it accuratly showed what life in a rehab center would be like (I personally have many friends and family members that could or have been to rehab). There are many aspects of the movie I liked and some I didn't but for the most part, I really did enjoy this movie. Perhaps its personal taste, who knows.

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Hi K

Thank you for your helpful and constructive contribution to the discussion on this thread.

>Secondly I would like to cmmend you George for sticking with a post this long and staying so involved with it. Im sure retirment has its perks and this is probably one of them, so a pat on the back to you sir for having stuck with us so long.

If you like stickability you’ll want to visit my “Why Didn’t the Film End Like This?” thread on the “Man on Fire” site.

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I feel rather young on this board. Everyone who has listed their ages, such that I have seen anyway, have been in there 30s to 40s area. And to think that just yesterday I felt old when I thought about turning 18 at the end of the year.

Yikes.

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How do you feel now? Being around 25? I'm in the position you were when you wrote this (I'm 19) haha!

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Slow down there, Ebert. It's just a movie.

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hi george

i have never spent so long on a thread, and i only read up to the third page, it is understandable that you did not like this film, you have said in many of the posts(that i had read)that you had never been to rehab or had any drug related issues, so how can you say that the characters where unreal, if you have no experiance on the subject, you had also stated that you struggled though it the first time then turned it off the second time after only 10 or so minutes, you didn't watch the rest of the movie, as for the part about the cake and the the porch, Sandra's character did find it funny, she is "high" she has no understanding of what is serious and what is not, and not once during the film, even during the wedding part did it show that the sister thought it was funny, or anyone eles besides her boyfriend jasper, thought that it was funny,she did however reaslise a bit of the seriousness of crashing in to the porch, she wasn't laughing when she got out of the car,

i do admit that some of the people on this website are maybe to young to realise what this movie is about they my find the cake scene funny because they are not fully aware of the effects of alcohol, just to make a point because i know you have jumped on this before. i did not find this part funny i found it sad, this website is not the best place to get a reveiw, but also some "professional" reveiwer have given it a good reveiw

now i could go on and say that i knew this person ... but that dosn't justify anything, besides the fact that i know the effects of drugs and alcohol,
i am sorry that you didn't like the movie, and i am sorry that you rented it without reaslising that you had seen it before (i have done it plenty of times to) but i do think that you where a bit harsh in calling lovers of this film childish, and before you deny that (again) just look at your thread title, i really belive you chose a wrong thread to post.

and for the record i am a 23 year old, single mum i have a 5 and a 3 year old, and am currenty studing part time to become a counselor and working part time since my husband walked out on me. i really enjoyed the film and do not find myself childish, so i dont belive you are safe to assume that.

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I'm 40, a high school drop out and self employed in the construction trades. I like my kids and my dogs, old Jazz, old punk and my favorite colors are blue and green. My motto is "Things end up the best for people that make the best of how things end up."

Was I the only one perceptive enough to see the pills they took from her at the beginning of her rehab stay (vicodin- for her hangovers, no doubt) and put two and two together to figure out that she was a little loopy at the wedding from booze and vicodin. I've been out around plain old drunk people and seen them get all loopy and giggly- it's not THAT uncommon- come on!

Only the dead stay seventeen forever.

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I'm college-educated, 40, work as a technical consultant for a global technology giant...and I guess, according to this thread starter, I am childish.

Man, what a wanker you are, sir! It was an incredibly judgemental post, even if it is two years old...it still is an offenseive attitude to take if you are just seeking information. It seems quite clear you were attempting to puff up your waning ego by portraying yourself as far superior to others who have viewed this film.

People like the films they like. I am STILL peeved at Mirimax for the two hours of my life I lost waiting for Ralph Fiennes to die so 'The English Patient' would end. I am, I believe, one of about 12 people who hated that film and didn't get it. But I don't go around telling people who like it 'There are two types of people who like this film...Saps who love it, and brainiacs who see through it?' No...I happen to love movies I know some people/critics hated....and I hate some movies many people simply love. I attend film festivals and see many non-studio films, so I consider myself more than a casual watcher of film. But I also know that some films speak to members of their audience on a different level. It's as simple as that.

It's NOT about whose childish or inferior just because a film appeals to them.

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I thought this film was good on a couple levels. A) Gerhardt's monologue about the forks and spoons was a total bonus. That character helped to lighten this subject matter up a lot. b) It was nice to see Steve Buscemi not getting the absolute sh!t kicked out of him and not packing heat. Having grown up in a family fraught with alcoholics, I have to say he played that part pretty well. Lots of stuff in this movie rang true, some not so much but still it's a fricken movie. Best part for me- and easily the most familiar- was when Gwen was walking home with her groceries, passing the bars and making her way home in this new, alien, non-alcoholic world. I so know that feeling. Empty. Bored. A little sad and envious. Been there.

Funny- I'm working in my office on Sunday and wanted some background noise to keep me company and this movie just wrapped up about ten minutes ago. There is no coincidence?

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everyone, and I mean everyone is going to have different feelings about every movie, now that doesn't mean there wont be a million people that love a movie and another million that hate that same movie, but if they are viewing the movie with emotion and feeling then while some people may have similar reasons for liking or disliking the movie they will mostly have different internal reasons.

now I know this is an old thread but, well i'm bored and figured I might as well reply to this.

now, I know i'm not 70 (i'm 29) as I believe the original poster claimed to be, but I don't think i'm childish or that my taste in movies are childish, but I do know that just because I like a movie or I feel passionate about a movie does not mean that others will feel the same and vise versa.

I completely enjoyed and loved this movie. I found it to be an entertaining film that had some commical aspects while also having a good bit of drama and emotion. I found myself relating to some things within the movie and the parts I would say that I don't relate to on a person experience kind of way I still found myself able to understand where the character was coming from.

I personally enjoy many different types of films from comedies, to dramas, to thrillers, to romances, suspense, etc...but I know not to come on here and just assume that if I read a lot of good reviews on a certain movie that i'll love it too....your best bet at getting other viewers opinions to help you choose a film you will like would be to make yourself a short list of movies you like that you would like to see a good film with a storyline that runs somewhat along the same vein as the movie you already like, because even with movie critics at least a portion of thier view on the movie will be based off of their own person taste.

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Nobody gives their age, qualifications, profession or favourite film.

24, have worked in the entertainment industry since I was 15, I work in entertainment PR and my favourite film is Apartment Zero. Do I qualify, by your standards, to have an opinion?

(/sarcasm)

Who gives a rat's @$$ about qualifications? Everyone is entitled to an opinion. Stop being so oppressive.

Go take a step outside - see what’s shaking in the real world.

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I like Sesame Street, Mr. Rogers and 28 Days. Being a filmmaker I can't give a rat's ass about anyone's opinion except various dead presidents.
I'm a fan of this film. I'm a child and plan to stay that way. It makes me money. I make fart jokes all the way to the bank.

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👍

This post is seriously old, and it's given me a massive headache from reading it. Even so, I have to say, I like your style sir.

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Yes, I think you should stick with books. You are much too sophisticated for films. Get over yourself.

No dessert Jerri. Don't touch the dog. DON'T rub your feces on the lamp shade.

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1. If I remember correctly, she wasn't just drunk she was also on pills (if they were painkillers that might explain the giddiness.)

2. Also, she was really immature at the beginning and maybe couldn't understand what an *beep* she was being until she saw how disgusted her sister was.

3. I liked this movie enough to re-watch it multiple times, but I'm not particularly attached to the beginning section. I liked watching the relationships between the people in the rehab center, and I thought they all did a good job of developing the characters.

4. LOUDON WAINWRIGHT III. I loved his cameos.

5. It's just a feel-good movie that isn't fluff, isn't boring (to me), and can make me cry.


Hope that helped.

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Really, we're not allowed to say "a**hole"?

Also, I forgot to mention that her attitude at the beginning came from her mother, if you watched that part. She was always taught that if you're not having fun then "what's the point?" an attitude that eventually SPOILER ALERT didn't work out so well for her mom.

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WOW !!! Talk about a blast from the past .... I thought this thread was dead ...

Does this mean that my epic thread on "Man on Fire" ... "The End is Stupid" still lives ????

But the writers could have done better ... and it made Sandra Bullock look stupid .. and showed a lack of respect for automobiles !!!!!

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"automobiles"?

I thought you lived in England, where we call them cars.

Troll much?

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