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Are the "The original is scarier!!" people just hipsters?


After all these years, I finally saw Ringu.
The Ring on the other hand, I have seen back then and it seriously scared me and stayed with me for many weeks because the story of Samara fascinated me deeply and the movie really left its marks on my mind, compared to most horror movies.

Over all these years I always heard "the original is so much better!" and "the original is so much more scary!", so I was excited to finally see it.

Well...

I can only disagree with these claims and wonder where they are coming from.
Ringu's Sadako is barely shown, basically just once. And when we finally see her, her gown is perfectly clean and in mint condition, her hair is fine, her skin sure looks off but nothing crazy and all there really is to indicate this is basically a well-body, are the missing nails (who also look a bit lazy, make-up wise). Then the big moment comes, the "face-reveal". Samara's horrible face is seared into my memory... Sadako's eye on the other hand...not that much. Yeah sure, creepy and "not human", but how is this scarier than Samara who really looks like she was dead inside a well for a long time?

The Ring has way more and way better effects, like the play with water, the fly on the screen that becomes real, the tape is longer, more detailed and way creepier, the investigation scenes at the farm (like the crazy suicide) and all that. The story of the horses committing suicide due to Samara's presence, the suffering we learn Samara had to endure etc. etc.

We learn so much more about Samara's back story and we actually learn it through discovery by the protagonist, compared to some psychic who just senses stuff and fills in the plot for us without any effort it seems.

Then there is Hans Zimmer's really good and distressing soundtrack, relying almost exclusively on classical instruments.

Aiden is legitimately creepy and he has this connection with Samara which is basically an extra side-plot compared to Yoichi who is just... there, being a sweet boy.

While of course, it always boils down to "taste" (and thus bias), I really think the above is an objective analysis and comparison that leaves personal preferences out of it as much as possible. I have no horse in this race.

So I wondered, all these people who claim Ringu is "so much better"... are they just 'hipsters' more or less? It seems to me they just *want* the Japanese version to be better and scarier because well, it is the Japanese version, the original, the first and perhaps most importantly: Not Hollywood. Let's not forget: "Hollywood bad!" (what a dumb thing to say...).

The main reason why I come to this conclusion is the lack of explanation as to why the original is better and scarier. Better is a difficult term here, but scarier? Seriously... how? The Ring has so many creepy scenes, and I mean creepy, not "sudden jump scare in your face" kind of garbage.
Ringu has what... 2-3 scenes that are really creepy? And even these are really tame in comparison.

I somewhere read "yeah how she climbs out of the well and moves is so creepy!" uhm...yeah... and did you see how fucked up it was in The Ring? Ringu seems like stage-play in comparison.


I enjoyed both, but I cannot see for the life of me why people would claim Ringu is, in any way, superior.

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More than "being better", it's about being the pioneers. Asian horror as a modern genre was born in the late 90s and early 2000s thanks to Hideo Nakata and Takashi Shimizu (mostly), and some others like Takashi Miike or some other minor horror directors.

Modern western horror is a copycat of it.

The thing with horror is that you get used to it. Ringu, or Ju-On, or Dark Water, or Shutter, or similar movies don't seem scary anymore because you've seen that same type of horror repeatedly during the last 20 years. But back then it was something new. It was something you hadn't seen before. And it was SCARY AS HELL.

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> Modern western horror is a copycat of it.
I agree, certainly.

But explain to me why that means th original "is better and more scary" when it objectively is not?
What you just said literally boils down to my caption: Being a hipster.

You're basically saying "it is better because original and not Hollywood"...

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Personally I find The Ring to be a better and scarier film over all and one of those rare cases where the remake surpasses the original.

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Agree here! I dig J-Horror a lot, but I’d agree that in this instance, the remake made a strong enough effort to make it a more re-watchable experience. The American remake wasn’t a lazy cash-in by any means.

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Oh most definitely not. It definitely had a lot of talent and love put into it. No doubt. πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

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The American version grossed about the same as the original did in Japan. Even in the country that gave us the original, the US version was fairly popular. That's another sign that they got it right.

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I definitely liked The Ring (2002) better. Probably because I saw that one first, that's usually the way. But also, it's just more dynamic. Like you said a lot more things going on in it to make it more interesting and creepy. With that being said though, this movie here, is not the first or original Ring movie. The original one is from 1995 and it was made for Japanese television and contains lots of sex and nudity and is supposedly much closer to the book than either one of these two theatrical movies right here. I just posted a link to that original movie on its board if anyone's interested. Just look up Ring (1995).

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What you love about the remake is what I dislike about it: it shows too much.

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