Have to say I found the main female character incredibly irritating. Always crying. I suppose its a cultural thing. I prefer strong, independent women.
Much preferred Naomi Watts in the The Ring.
Really?
How many times did you count her crying?
Plus, Naomi Watts did far more squealing in the remake.
How many times did you count her crying?
Kind of, I guess.
She definitely is on the softer note when you compare her to Naomi's character.
And definitely appears more fragile, while the male lead appears less sympathetic and more well, manly and detached.. almost anal retentive like..with lines like, we weren't meant to have this boy so perhaps it is best for us to die this way..
You'll see the same in DarkWater Japan version. The woman is softer and more fragile and slightly sketchier than her counterpart in the U.S. version.
Different cultures, different reactions. Also different actresses. Personally, I disliked Naomi's character, if only for the hokeyness she gave off as a journalist.
shareWell the whole movie didn't sit naturally in my opinion.
It was trying far too much.. and some scenes.. Kind of overacting..
"I prefer strong, independent women."
Oh, please! "Strong, independent women?" Could you have possibly devised a more shopworn cliche! Naomi Watts basically plays the character as a man-in-drag, whereas this delightful Japanese woman plays the character as a (very attractive, and yes, feminine) woman. But women who don't act like men aren't "strong, independent," I guess.
Oh, please! "Strong, independent women?" Could you have possibly devised a more shopworn cliche! Naomi Watts basically plays the character as a man-in-drag, whereas this delightful Japanese woman plays the character as a (very attractive, and yes, feminine) woman. But women who don't act like men aren't "strong, independent," I guess.
"I bet you're the sort of white guy that only dates submissive Asian women and gets hostile to any woman that isnt a brainless bimbo."
I don't have any interest in dating Asian women (not that its any of your concern). And I like intelligent women who don't act like men. Feminists and their desire for all women to embrace uniformly masculine behavioral traits, are quite amusing, however.
Bozohead you sound like a guy trying to suck up and trying to score a girl online.
You don't know what a strong woman really is. You assume a strong woman is a woman who acts more like a guy. Which is way off. Most girls who act completely strong on the outside are weak on the inside. But you wouldn't know that since you assume the Asian female lead is weak for showing emotions.
I know plenty of strong women who can get emotional and you couldn't handle them. They'd get in your face, and make you cry with a smile on their face. Not apologizing for any of it.
There's a time and place for everything it's how you handle each situation that determines if you're strong or not. It's not about if you show emotions or not.
But you couldn't get a girl like the Asian lead or the American lead. So really it doesn't matter you're on here more to suck up.
About the movie though. Ringu is one of the best horror movies I've ever watched and a must for anyone's top 20 horror movie collection.
Bozohead you sound like a guy trying to suck up and trying to score a girl online.
ou don't know what a strong woman really is. You assume a strong woman is a woman who acts more like a guy.
>>And you sound like a guy who doesn't know what hes talking about.<<
LMAO, typical American attitude. If a person doesn't talk like we think they should, then they're stupid and know nothing. How lame.
>>Ahhh, yes. The theory that if a woman isn't a brainless bimbo than she must
acting like a man - because strength and independence are inherently masculine traits.<<
Ahhh, yes. The theory that if a woman is soft and emotional she must be a brainless bimbo - because softness and emotionality are inherently bimbo traits.
The feminism behind your thinking is obvious. Not saying you are a conscious feminist - though very, very, very many Western people are.
The feminism behind your thinking is obvious. Not saying you are a conscious feminist - though very, very, very many Western people are.
I bet you're the sort of white guy that only dates submissive Asian women and gets hostile to any woman that isnt a brainless bimbo.
I truly feel that Naomi Watt's character was dull and uninspiring. I expected a whole lot when i saw her performance in Mulholland Dr. But in The Ring she flawed horribly. The Japanese actress did a much better and convincing job. This is not a matter of being strong or weak, dominant or submissive. it's about sympathizing with the character and being able to feel familiar with her emotions.
That's what made the original version scary and the american remake to polished and trifling in many parts.
I wrote the greatest quote in movie history!
You're right, it is a cultural thing. But Reiko is shown in a different light to Rachel's character. I just wrote my 12,000 word dissertation for university on this topic! :)
Reiko's situation isn't regarded as the norm in Japan- for her to be a single mother AND a career woman that often leaves her son alone is going against the grain of Japanese society. Rachel's character is far stronger and shown as less reliant on the male lead, and her son is far more independent, which leaves less of a emphasis as her 'career woman' as a problem. Single mothers, divorce & career women are far more common in America than they are in Japan. I don't mean that in an offensive way to either culture, it's just fact. More and more Japanese horrors have messages about this kind of thing. Reiko is basically a representation of all the 'bad things that happen' when society breaks down in this way.
Rare Japanese Ghost Stories blog;
http://kaidancentral.blogspot.com
Forgot to say what a good and interesting post by you.
Reiko's situation isn't regarded as the norm in Japan- for her to be a single mother AND a career woman that often leaves her son alone is going against the grain of Japanese society
I didn't like how she didn't breakdown and cry or care much at all after what happens to Ryuji.
shareUgh go watch some crappy American movie where every woman could challenge a wrestler double their size HA. Go watch The Ring then. Not many here are missing you.
shareUgh go watch some crappy American movie where every woman could challenge a wrestler double their size HA. Go watch The Ring then. Not many here are missing you.