Top 5 Anti War Movies ! - Tigerland (2001) Discussion

[–] pkpera 18 years ago

Nobody mentioned: Joeux Noel
Another very good French movie: Un long dimanche...

Why should best anti-war movie be an American one? From country which was involved in almost every conflict in last 60 years? I don't want to start some political fight here, of course, with that.
There are very good US anti-war movies. Even Stone's 'Nixon' is that in fact.
Just watch great scene at Lincoln statue.

What is no good that some people automatically associates 'greatest some-genre movie' with some high-budget, star filled one.

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[–] veryvirgo 18 years ago

Johnny Got His Gun, the movie based on the book that Boz was carrying in the truck is probably the best anti-war movie ever made. War honors nothing, creates nothing, proves nothing. You can count on the fingers of one hand the times in history when war was unavoidable. Johnny Got His Gun is about the true cost of war.

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[–] AdvocatusDiaboli 17 years ago

1. The Killing Fields
2. The Thin Red Line
3. Apocalypse Now
4. Full Metal Jacket
5. Platoon

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[–] mads-26 17 years ago

Die Brûcke is a perfect example of antiwar movie.

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[–] ebyrd81 17 years ago

Here's my nominations....

1-All Quiet On The Western Front (1930)
2-Gallipoli
4-Cross of Iron
4-Platoon
2-Cold Mountain

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[–] Danko84 17 years ago

The best anti-war movie is Serbian "Pretty Village, Pretty Flame" (Lepa sela lepo gore).

A must see for everyone.

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[–] poderator 17 years ago

If you really want to see a great war/anti-war movie you should check Warriors 1999 (In USA Peacekeepers, with Damian Lewis, Matthew Macfayden and Ioan Gruffud). This is a TV movie but it is brilliant. It is also very hard to watch because it contains extreme violence.

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[–] herzogvon 16 years ago

Can't believe I've gotten this far and have yet to hear a mention of "The Red Badge of Courage". Stephen Crane's Civil War novel is a classic and has been filmed at least twice. John Huston's 1951 version may not be that director's best, but it's certainly worth a watch.

Of the others mentioned, "All Quiet on the Western Front" must be at the top of any list of true anti-war films, right next to "Paths of Glory". After that, things become a bit murkier. Keep in mind that a true anti-war film needs a certain universality. A lot of the anti-Vietnam movies tend to lack that. Two other points to make:

1.) As others have pointed out, "Saving Private Ryan" is NOT anti-war, it's jingoistic as sin. ( What else would one expect from Neo-Con Steven Spielberg? )

2.) "Tigerland" was made in 2000. It could NOT have been made two years later, as the climate in this country changed ierrevocably. ( This is why "Jarhead" was so watered down. ) When you watch movies from around that time, it's wise to keep the whole pre versus post 9/11 business in mind. It's fascinating to observe the differences in attitude.

Propaganda is a product of it's time.

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[–] herzogvon 16 years ago

Here's another one that wasn't mentioned: "On The Beach". As an anti-nuclear war tract - ( again, lacking real universaility ) - this one is right up there with "Dr. Strangelove" and "Fail Safe". Whoops! That's one more nobody thought of...

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[–] murad23 12 years ago

Saving private ryan is thoroughly anti war.

And it is not jingoistic in the least. Gallipoli and all quite are jingoistic, but not saving private Ryan. Saving Private Ryan is rom the US point of view. Point of view is does not exclude universality.

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[–] SeanDx 11 years ago

Saving Private Ryan is a movie of two parts. The first part undermines all the Hollywood war clichés with the horrific opening, the random slaughter, the terrible injuries, their medic getting shot and dying (very frightened) while they struggle to help him, and even some civilians caught up in the horror.
But then it lays on all the old clichés with a trowel. The brave stand to hold the bridge (with the home-made sticky bombs to take on tanks), the hollywood style death of the Hanks character, neat wound (no severed limbs or intestines at all at this point in the movie) and of course the few wise words before slipping away.

The overall effect is definitely more jingoistic than anti-war.
Gone With The Wind is actually more of an anti-war film than Saving Private Ryan.

So many films present two faces quite skilfully, so that one person can look at the depiction of the cruelty and folly of war and consider a film is a worthy anti-war statement, while another person with a different outlook will appreciate the same film as a positive portrayal of individual bravery and small-unit solidarity and so see it as more pro-military.

My list:
The Charge Of The Light Brigade (the 1968 one)
The Thin Red Line
Casualties of War
Tigerland
Gallipoli (opposite to Saving Private Ryan, it starts jingoistic and then highlights the waste)
Aces High
Breaker Morant

And I'd give an honourable mention to the Bridge sequence in The Good, The Bad And The Ugly.
And of course Blackadder Goes Forth, even if it is a TV series.

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[–] BBogus 9 years ago

What war in Tigerland? Anti-instution yes, ani-war while there is no war?

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[–] malkycombat 8 years ago

Southern Comfort
Southern Comfort
Southern Comfort
Southern Comfort
Southern Comfort

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