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This movie feels really outdated now


Homophobia and marijuana. Wow so edgy.

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Even at the time, it was inferior to the brilliant The Ice Storm from a couple of years earlier. Now THAT is a definitive portrayal of suburban angst and tragically dysfunctional families. American Beauty is very well-acted, handsomely shot and highly entertaining, but it’s mostly surface.

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It looks better than American Beauty. But there nothing more annoying than Filmmakers trying to say this how everybody life is like. When that not remotely the case. Which is half the problem i have with American Beauty.

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I know, right? The entertainment industry has been bombarding us with this message for decades, at least those in it who style themselves as "edgy," or people with "something to say." Look at Mad Men, set in the oh-so-stylish Kennedy era, arguably the pinnacle of American power and confidence. Every male character is a despicable, philandering, sexist pig who leads a pathetically empty life devoid of real meaning. Every suburban scene positively drips with the implication that these people all live utterly superficial, meaningless, shallow, phony lives, wearing polite smiles that they show each other, even as they connive and gossip maliciously behind each others' backs. And no one, but no one is actually happy. Every man and woman walks through life like a robot, doing what's expected and appropriate, and all secretly unhappy and unfulfilled. There are no characters who really like their jobs, no husbands and fathers who truly love their wives and children, no wives who are genuinely happy to be raising their kids because they love them and love motherhood, etc.

Or listen to the Monkees' "Pleasant Valley Sunday," written by hippies Gerry Goffin and Carole King. It paints idyllic suburban life as an empty existence of crass commercialism and suburbia itself is dismissed as "status symbol land."

It's always been stylish for some people to sneer at middle-class suburban life, while those of us who actually live it, find it a wonderful existence -- and unlike the elite scolds who sneer at us, we are actually happy, and grateful not to have lived our lives slaving away sunup to sundown to scratch out a bare subsistence living through backbreaking labor, in grinding poverty, the way 99% of humanity had to do before the industrial revolution. In other words, we're not stuck up ingrates.

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This is well written and spot on.

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That might not have been 100% of suburban families, but it was a LOT of suburban families in the '50s and '60s - speaking as someone who grew up then.

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I LOVE AMERICAN BEAUTY....FIRST SAW IT BEFORE I HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH GAYS OR MARIJUANA...FLASH FORWARD...I LOVE GAYS AND MARIJUANA NOW,AND I STILL LOVE AMERICAN BEAUTY...TOP NOTCH FILM THAT STICKS WITH ME.

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Sooooo .... do you love gays from a distance like me, or sitting on your face.

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OH,YOU KNOW...A LITTLE FROM THIS COLUMN,A LITTLE FROM THAT COLUMN...

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This thing aged like milk. Its aged even more since Kevin Spacey got exposed.

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I lived in a DUPLEX in 1999 when this movie came out!

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It's one of those 24 year old movies that seems more like 50 years old.

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I do agree that it's dated. It used to be one of my favourite films around the time (early 00's) but a viewing of it about 10 years ago really changed my mind and a more recent viewing cemented it. A film that no longer resonates with me now I'm older and like you say has that feel of being very much of its time with the subject matter.

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Outdated? So what? If you expect movies to seem contemporary no matter how old they are, you will almost always be disappointed. It's from 1999, so it reflects 1999 stuff and seems like 1999. BFD. It's foolish to expect anything else.

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still a great film. but I know how to look beyond datedness.

one has to LOOK CLOSER ;)

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It was outdated in 1999. The whole, "Ooh, suburbia isn't the Norman Rockwell painting you think it is!" story line was played out by 1980.

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Flat out DISAGREE that the film is dated, unless you're commenting on the fact that it was shot on crisp 35 MM film, featured a genuinely witty, satiric script and was released in movie theaters for more than TWO weeks and made a TON of money, despite being marketed to ADULTS over 35!

The themes addressed in the film are as real now as they were then.

A truly unique, original film that still kicks ass.

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Sounds like you haven't seen a lot of movies.

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No, just classic film from the silents to the present, ignoring Marvel "films", prequels and endless sequels.

I take it you watch a ton of digital crap down in your mother's basement, no?

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