So who did it? (Spoilers)
I'm sorry, you're all going to think I'm stupid cause I just didn't get it. Who killed Marion?
I'm sorry, you're all going to think I'm stupid cause I just didn't get it. Who killed Marion?
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With the fact that woman who gave him ride from the Greek's bar said that he didn't trust woman drivers.
shareBtw she looked remarkably clean and healthy for a car crash victim. Looked more like she had died in her sleep..
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I think people are forgetting one important thing. The Croupier had no car.
In this town, I'm the leper with the most fingers.
Watched this on Netflix very cool. I actually couldn't deciding it was Jack or
Maybe his fathers arrangement?
wow,a lot of really thought provoking points rasied on this thread. im just going to raise some random points that i feel might help point the way towards a concrete solution (even though i think hodges deliberatly doesnt want one to be seen, he wants a very ambiguous end to the plot).
i think the crux of the story is the process of Jack becoming Jake. the whole timeline of the narrative is Jack the writer turing into Jake the croupier. Jake is based upon Matt, whose motto is "im going to *beep* the whole world over". As Matt's motto becomes Jake's motto (and thus Jack's motto), we see the moral degridation of jack. Marion's death is very symbolic, and i think more-so than trying to create some murder mystery/conspiracy. he states that he doesnt love here, she is his conscience. Jack kills his conscience, so he can truly become Jake/Matt, a truly morally ambiguous chaarcter who would *beep* the world over for personal gain. he seems to want to disvcard everything that connected him to being Jack the writer. he dyes his hair, he seems to live in that tuxedo by the end of the film, changing into it at home bfore he leaves for work, on NYE, matt even comments, "you still havent changed out fo your work clothes". he wants to truly immerse himself in being Jake. to do so, he needs to silence his conscience (marion). the mix up of "his mother...HER mother" could be jack mixiung up Jake's fictional life with what happened in real life with Marion. it does appear there is a lack of de-lineation netween Jack and Jake's consciousness. it coudl aslo appear to be jack/jake trying to get his alibi straight for her murder.
There is a confusing contradiction to the character: he makes it abundantly clear he never gambles (not on the tables as uch, but in real life he is an obsessive gambler) and he hates cheats (once again, only in the world of gambling, in real life he cheats on the innocent Marion 3 seperate times). once again, it seems to be an attempt at becoming Jake, the gambler, who wanst to *beep* the whole world over. he *beep* bella literally, then does it metaphorically by dobbing her in and losing her job. the sceen at the end where he is back with Bella is puzzling in the extreme though; i have no explanation. perhaps like jack/jake she is attracted to trouble, to the gambler.
im going to watch ti again soon to get all the plot points fresh in my mind, and take some notes, because this is such a dense and complicated narrative. its a credit to mayersberg.
The Dude Abides
The author, Paul Mayersberg, commented on this in an NPR interview on the program Fresh Air on May 16, 2000. He said, "You can look at it in many ways. It's a coincidence. An unpleasant and unhappy circumstance. Or it was designed and deliberate for plot reasons. There is no possible way ... Jack can determine what that is."
Thus, I infer that Jack did not kill her.
Mayersberg continues:
"My point ... was intended to be ... when you become involved in a world where you get superstitious ... you also come across the problem of coincidence. You don't know whether a coincidence is part of a design - the origin of which you don't know - or is just a random event. ... I wanted to show that all events are random. ... you can't let anything go once you become hooked on gambling because it's so close to superstition and witchcraft."
When Jack removes the sheet you hear the roulette ball landing implying that Marion's fate was sealed. But if we're asking about her being murdered my suspicion lands on her lover the cop who admits to Jack that he "loved" her.
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