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Something that makes it impossible for me to love this movie

posted 8 years ago by LuxuryJesper
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On a lot of premies, this was a great movie:

- Tobey Maguire was a great Peter Parker

- He was a "realistic" Spider-Man

- Kirsten Dunst was a perfect fit for Mary Jane

- It had a lot of great scenes: where he got his official name, the death of his uncle (probably where he realized, he had to fight crime), the upside down kiss etc.

- The marketing was great

Buuuut, what ruined it all for me, was the lack of a good villain. Nowadays, the villain is just as (if not more) important than the hero. No fun in watching a whole movie about a superhero fighting crime, against a lot of low-lifes. We need a serious villain, who can challenge him. Not just psychically, but also mentally. In other words, The Green Goblin, ruined it for me. He was unwillingly comical, I never really understood his truly intentions, the action scenes between him and Spider-Man was terrible etc. His presence also made it difficult for me to determine the "mood" of this movie. In the beginning, it was a teen-flick. Then it switched to being fun and entertaining. Then it was kinda sad and emotional. Then serious. And then this stupid green flying piece of *beep* appeared, and it went all down the drain. The second movie was worse in my opinion. Here, they had a very very good possibility of turning Doc Ock into an excellent villain (I was really looking forward to the interactions between those two in the movie), but it - again, all fell to the ground.

The new Amazing Spider-Man movies on the other hand, are superior in every way when it comes to villains. The whole story about the Doctor turning into The Lizard was very realistic and somehow emotional, which meant that despite all the things "he" did, you still felt sorry for him. The Electro character/abilities was used extremely well, and I was reallly impressed with the action scenes (especially the Times Square-scene).

All the things I've mentioned about the original Spider-Man movie, was better than the same things which occurred in The Amazing. But, the lack of a good villain ruined it all for me. Which is why I, sadly, never will be able to like this movie. Don't know if anyone else feels the same.

All these voices in my head, and not a single one I understand.

[–] ShallowAl69 8 years ago

I prefer Andrew Garfield.

Not only is he, in my opinion, a vastly superior actor - he's also far more gorgeous.

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[–] spencermalley935 8 years ago

The new Amazing Spider-Man movies on the other hand, are superior in every way when it comes to villains.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIgfiSzCy1o

[–] Wint3rFir3 (7386) 8 years ago

Damn, I appreciated this response so much.

[–] manchof1 8 years ago

 This post is a joke right?

[–] GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 8 years ago

Although I do like this movie I will agree the main villain was weak. He had motive when he killed the board members at the parade but then he just decides to make Spider-Man join him for some reason despite the fact he tried to stop him at the parade. Then Spider-Man declines and he's just like, "I'm going to find his identity and make him pay for it." I will say though the ending with how Goblin dies is straight out of the comics (minus the death of Gwen Stacy of course). But yeah. He wasn't really that great of a villain. People seem to defend it as, "He's just crazy." but frankly that isn't a good reason. Even crazy people have some motive. Green Goblin after killing the board members didn't have any motive.

I will agree about Doc Ock as well. The guy was being controlled by his AI in his tentacles the whole time making him not even responsible for everything he did as Doc Ock. I hope we can get a better take on Doc Ock someday.

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[–] FrequencyCutoff 8 years ago

I just assumed the "performance enhancers" he breathed in when he was in the lab, desperately doing the experimental testing on himself at the beginning of the movie, were the main cause of his "insanity" from that point on-- which was a bad thing to combine with his regular, everyday, power-hungry personality type. I'm certainly no expert though, and it's been a while since I've seen the whole movie (the beginning, in particular), so I could be WAY off.

[–] michaelpatryk (5) 3 years ago

The Goblin’s motives were initially to serve Norman (killing the competing technology company’s members, killing his board members), however when Spider-Man confronts and fights with him at the festival, the Goblin recognizes Spider-Man will only get in his way in his quest for ultimate power. The Goblin grows madder and madder for power as the movie progresses and Norman falls deeper into insanity. He offers Spider-Man a partnership, knowing that otherwise he will have to put in the effort to kill him and recognizes what power Spider-Man could bring to an alliance. When Spider-Man declines, it just pisses the Goblin off more. He knows Spider-Man won’t join forces, and on that same day he figures out Spider-Man is really Peter Parker (Thanksgiving scene). His next objective is to make Peter suffer - thus attacking Aunt May, MJ, and the innocent children - after making him suffer (and failing to have Peter make a choice and sacrifice either MJ or the kids). This is the night when the Goblin nearly kills Spider-Man. Once Spider-Man is officially out of the way, the Goblin can continue to give Norman all good things and stop anybody who ever gets in his way. Ultimately, though, the Goblin’s deeper motive was to eventually rise to power and rule over the city, since he is “exceptional.”

[–] snelling 8 years ago

Willem Dafoe was a great villain and you are an ignorant ass.

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[–] PaladinNJ (21784) 7 years ago

Only thing I didn't care about Willem Dafoe was that they didn't bring him back and use him again (except as Harry's delusion). I thought he did great job.

[–] yatzo376 (7753) 6 years ago

Defoe was great , overqualified actually.
He even looks like a goblin without the mask!

[–] Alex (1508) 6 years ago

LOL.

[–] [deleted] 6 years ago

I liked him too. Superhero movies (and comics) often have had standard villains. You have a maniac, a mad scientist, a crime boss, or a galactic overlord. But Norman has a split personality AND he has issues with his son AND he wants to be Pete's dad AND he wants Spider-man to join him so he can kill whoever he wants. He wants it all and he's ruthless. It didn't require Dafoe to do a lot of method acting or anything, but he handled it really well. And Raimi's style is to have those camera shots that show the villain sneering, the girl screaming, and the hero jumping up after taking a punch. It's larger than life storytelling. It's still fun to watch