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IMDB: people who liked this also liked 'The Patriot' LOL!


Hilarious, obviously ones for those who just want to be told how fantastic USA is, even if history actually says otherwise.

There are plenty of things for USA to be proud of without having to reinvent their past

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Yeah right, cuz you Brits have all been such angels too huh? I don't think so.

Also, I dare say that Brits, Germans, French, etc. all make films about themselves that show them as being heroic. Even more than they actually were. So it's not just an American thing.

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I'm not sure the Brits do anymore, not since our WWII propaganda.

Some of the films from that era are excellent, but I think it is important to remember that the message of the films is biased.

I would like to think that Hollywood is over the political interference of old, but aside from Oliver Stone and Michael Moore, most Hollywood films still want to wave the US flag and say how fantastic USA is (which sometimes it is, but sometimes it isn't).

As I inferred at the end of my original post, USA has plenty to be proud about, I did not intend to be offensive about USA, but if you start re-writing history to be self-congratulatory about things you did not actually do, then that is lying to your audience, and I would question the motives for this.

Both the Patriot and U571 are guilty of this revisionism, proudly proclaiming USA were responsible for capturing the Enigma machine (they weren't). And that the real fight in The Patriot was Independence from the British Empire primarily because of slavery, when actually it was abolished in UK over 50 years earlier than in USA. American audiences should be insulted that the filmmakers are making up historical achievements for them to applaud.

Three fairly recent films I really like from USA are Glory, Gettysburg and Geronimo, and these were exciting, informative and left me with nothing but admiration for the filmmakers who were brave enough to tell the stories without bias, so we see how Americans overcame adversity and terrible hardships and bigotry to fight for what was right, and in the case of Geronimo, it was brave enough to point out that the US government reneged on the promises it made to end the conflict with the Apache.

In 1970 Soldier Blue with Peter Strauss and Candice Bergen was a big hit in UK and Europe (it was the #3 movie in UK for 1970), and spawned a top 10 hit single also for Buffy Saint Marie in the UK, Europe and Japan.
The film flopped in USA purportedly due to the depiction of extreme violence by the US Cavalry against the Cheyenne, and the belief that the film was an intended Vietnam allegory. I would question how often even today this film is televised in USA and why the title song was omitted from the American release of Buffy Saint Marie's greatest hits, despite it being an international hit.
Was this film suppressed by the government? Or was the American public simply not ready to view USA in a bad light? Either way it seems the American public (at least in 1970) prefer to hear only good things about USA. Perhaps now this is the safe default commercial setting for Hollywood, as other countries (in the "free" world) do not pander to their audiences in the same way.

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why type the idiot "lol"??? and why in capitals.???

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By 2000 It was pretty much well known
THAT
You don't Expect Historical accuracy from Hollywood

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