Wow, what an awesome movie


Someone has to start a thread that gives the other side.

I went into this film with zero expectations and I was genuinely surprised. It's not Cold Mountain, but it's not far from it, IMO.

At times the acting is bit questionable (Ulrich, Jewel), but it's never so bad that it detracts from a scene. Jewel did fine. They were wise not to give her too many lines.

If you appreciate a good script, you will like this movie. There is subtle humor, as well as some pretty thoughtful, subtle "philosophizing" throughout the entire film. I laughed out loud several times, simply because the script is so well-written. There are a lot of humorous lines at just the right time, if you pay attention and listen: "I believe that man would marry stones to stones if there was a chicken at the end."

The one serious line that stuck with me was when "Dutchie" says: "It ain't right and it ain't wrong. It just is."

This is a wonderful movie. If you loved Cold Mountain, might you be happy to watch a 75% version?

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Great movie, a "sleeper" hit

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Yes "Ride With The Devil" is an awesome movie. I'd say it is one of the best Westerns ever made. I think its far better than "Cold Mountain". It has a greater depth to it, wider and subtler characterisation and better acting (Tobey Maguire is streets ahead of Jude Law).

"Cold Mountain" seems a slightly pointless love story (and the lovers hardly meet), whereas "Ride With The Devil" is a wonderfully organic piece where poeple grow together, while others fall apart. It's tells the vibrant and vicious story of what civil war is about- the awful random tit-for tatness of it all that still pertains in many parts of the world.

"Ride With The Devil" is a masterpiece. The best Western for years- probably since "OUATITW" and "The Wild Bunch".

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not to change topic, but Jewel, an actor in this film, was on C-SPAN (June 23rd), talking about advocacy for homeless children. She went from being homeless to a recording contract and doing the pledge of alliegance at the Superbowl (Green Bay vs. Denver)

She recanted a story where she worked at a fast-food place, and was fired because she wouldnt have sex with the manager, and had her check withheld. She couldnt pay rent and was kicked out.

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Point?

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Whoa, what are you talking about? Terrible acting, terrible script. Unexciting action sequences. Whenever Jewel was onscreen it was painful to watch.

Especially galling was the historical inaccuracy. I was not impressed. The script tried to address the "peculiar institution" (that'd be slavery, kids) but it didn't. The passages regarding it were forced and painfully out-of-step with the rest of the movie.

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Specifically what historical inaccuracies are you referring to? Could you give some examples, please?

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Stay away from this one.

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No, I gave a link to the film DARK COMMAND which is very historically inaccurate. While RIDE WITH THE DEVIL isn't 100% accurate (no film can be) is easily the best film dealing with Quantrill regarding accuracy.

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I rented this movie about 7 years ago simply because Tobey and Jonathan Brandis were in it, but I was pleasantly surprised at how good it was. I was also surprise that Jewel was in it and she did a great job. Another side note Jonathan Rhys-Meyer when I saw him I remeber thinking wow what a gorgeous guy. Funny thing is I didn't really come to know about Johnny Rhys-Meyer until last year and it hit me that he was the guy in Ride with the devil...lol

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I heard cold mountain sucked?

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Good movie, of the stop_start, life_is_not_always_symetrical category. Lee's
style.

In the "terrible" thread, there is a lot of discussion which says that on the important history issues, this movie does pretty well.

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This is such a great movie on so many levels. The writing, the acting and the locations. It's historically accurate, despite claims to the contrary.

Am anxious to see the Criterion director's cut on DVD...

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My vote is for mildly awesome. To me it is an obviously superior remake of ARIZONA RAIDERS.

I love Westerns, real Westerns. The forties through the early sixties were the classic era, but there were a few poor ones in that span, of which ARIZONA RAIDERS was one.

The late sixties and seventies were a disaster in making movies, except for comedies. There was a desire to force worlds upon the public which narrow minded, self righteous, racist producers, dirctors, and writers wanted to force. They fooled the ignorant masses with their speeches about "art, realism, etc", but they lacked all of those.

The Westerns were hit the hardest. It was a case of fixing something that wasn't broken. The Westerns of the fifties had fantastic situations, but credible characters. The late sixties and seventies, and particularly Leone, took away the best of both worlds. They tried to fool us into thinking their films were realistic by taking away the colorful vests and putting them in dusty clothes. This turned out to make them look like buffoons, historically, because their characters and plots were complete one dimensional cardboard cutouts, complete cliches, and not a bit believable. Plus, anyone who wasn't a complete wacko could care less about the psychotic characters of those movies. If those characters were the West, there wouldn't be a West. There wouldn't be human beings on the planet.

The eighties saw a desire to bring fun and entertainment back into films, but the sets and costumes were still drab, and the characters still remnants of the cliches of the seventies. THE LONG RIDERS is a case in point. Better than the disaster of the seventies, but still inferior to the golden age Westerns.

So some crafty directors and producers since then have managed to give us the "realism look" and given us "realistic characters". This film is a case in point. It is one of the best depictions in film of an anti hero. He isn't always right, and we don't always agree with him, but we understand him as something besides a cliche. He is a three dimensional character with a method to his madness.

I'm pretty awed by this film. I just hesitate a bit because of a few lulls, and because the beginning is difficult to understand, but those are very minor. I rate it 9/10


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