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German or Dutch?

posted 15 years ago by info-6068
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Jake Roedel was he a German or a Dutchman?
It might be that Americans think its all the same, because most have no clue about how Europe looks like, but it sure aint the same. A Dutchman (Dutchy) is from The Netherlands an not from Germany. So what about Jake Roedel? At the beginning it is said that he is German, in the middle he is Dutch and later he is German again. Throughout the whole film he is called 'Dutchy' by the group he is riding with.....
Bit confusing here.
My advise tho the script writer and all other writers: Do some good research! Especially when its about an historic item!

I am Dutch myself and we don't like to be called German ans as far as I know Germans don't like to be called Dutch either.

[–] Ten-Inch-Toni 11 years ago

German is Deutsch in well, German. I am German. Ich bin Deutsch. Deutsch becomes Dutch. Germans were Dutch or Dutchy.

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[–] Ten-Inch-Toni 11 years ago

Before you go lumping all Americans into your ignorant statement you might want to learn a little bit about what Germans call themselves in their own country. As to 'uncosmopolitan farming folk in Missouri' you might want to READ up a bit more on American history and not put too much into fictional film to get your historical references.

[–] Jester2000154113 9 years ago

German.

Early in the movie when he visits his father he briefly speaks German to his father's workers, and when he's arguing with his father, he says "you might have born me in Germany but I was raised here".

Americans commonly called Germans "Dutchmen" through the 18th and 19th centuries as a derivation of the German word "Deutsch", which means "German".

The so-called Pennsylvania Dutch, for example, are actually of German descent.

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[–] gasivodo 9 years ago

BOTH.

[–] paul_cowsill 9 years ago

He was born on board from Germany, who were migrating to Missouri, and was adopted by the Chiles, who employed his father as a vintner. He is pejoratively called "Dutchy", because the Germans in Misouri, including his father, were loyal to the Union. By the way, Jackson Evans, who hosts the platoon during the winter before being killed in the raid which also leads to Jack Bulls' own death, says that Quantrill is trash.

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[–] G_Bomb 9 years ago

Are you guys kidding?

Dutch or "dutchie" = Deutschland

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[–] swd_ist 9 years ago

I believe he is German, Germany is also called Deutschland, which is where I believe they get Duchy from.