Why Neo didn't stay dead? It's not a miracle. Oracle gave him a cookie. In Revolutions she says cookies need love just like everything. Therefore cookies are activated by love. When Trinity says she loves Neo, the Oracle program is activated and he comes back to life.
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I thought you were going to lament as to how stupid this and the other line is.
This movie has many stupidities, but 'body can't live without the mind' as an explanation as to why you die in a brain-uploaded computer game, is just complete BS, but hey, there has to be tension and stakes in a movie, right? (I just wish they had come up with something better)
The other stupid line is: "Mental projection of your digital self" - what? You don't HAVE a 'digital self', no one does! Digital self does not exist!
But.. 'Digital projection of your mental self' would make PERFECT sense. Everyone has a mental self, astral self, etheric self, causal self and true self. In addition, people have a 'image of themselves', often called 'self-image', which this could easily refer to.
I am convinced the actors just went along instead of understanding anything the crazy BROTHERS tried to enthuse about (probably without understanding all of the pseudo-philosophy themselves - after all, they ripped off most of this movie from other things), and when they were given these lines to memorize, they couldn't say them with conviction because the weird lines didn't make sense to them, so they just said it 'any which way' they happened to remember, and NO ONE NOTICED.
(Which kinda proves my point)
I am sure the original line MUST have been "Digital projection (done with computers) of your mental self (self-image the computer can copy directly from your sub-consciousness)", but not understanding what they're saying, Fishburne just simply remembered it wrong, and blurted out the stupid, thoughtless and erroneous, nonsensical 'Mental projection' (why would there be MENTAL PROJECTION in a digital world, and why would a MENTAL PROJECTION be visible in a digital world? Furthermore, think of how insane it would be to even HAVE a 'Mental projection of YOUR DIGITAL SELF'!)
Yep, I alwasy got confuse by that line, even I was just a kid in high school and english isn't my primary language.
The weird thing is: I barely see anyone talk about it, even I try to google it.
I explained this elsewhere on these boards, but here's why the mental projection line works as-written:
"...it's a mental projection because the mind is making projecting it and it's a digital self because the "self" is the digital version (sans plugs, with hair, etc.) of the body outside."
Your reasoning isn't explanation, I can show you why by swap two words:
"...it's a digital projection because the computer is making projecting it and it's a mental self because the "self" is the mental version (sans plugs, with hair, etc.) of the body outside."
Your reasoning only make the line worse, because it can apply to the line "Digital projection of your mental self."
The mind of the user projects the digital version of the user. "A mental projection of your digital self."
The computer isn't projecting it. The definition of the verb form of "project" is: "to devise in the mind; to throw or cast forward; to display outwardly especially to an audience." (Merriam-Webster; I've truncated that for brevity). The mind projects. "Here's what I look like." The Matrix processes the data given by the mind interacting with it, and that's what the digital self is: it's projected from the mind.
It's a digital self because it is the person (their self) in digital form.
If they want to use "mental projection" and "digital self" it should change the "of" to "to".
"Mental projection OF your digital self." makes no sense. But I can accept "Mental projection TO your digital self."
Like avortac4 said: "You don't HAVE a 'digital self', no one does! Digital self does not exist!"
I'm gonna have to make this the last one, but it does make sense.
If you have a movie projector, you put the film into the projector. That is the film projection of a big-screen movie. You don't say "to" a big-screen movie. You say "of". The movie is the projection. The screen just receives it.
The digital self they are referring to are the avatars they use inside the Matrix. They have digital selves the way that MMORPGs have characters in them. You design the character/digital self/avatar, the game puts it up.
The projection is from the mind. It is a projection *of* a digital self.
As always, a calm, intelligent response to someone's self-imposed nitpicking.
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shareThanks, after a few responses I know it's waste time to reply again, like on other board some thugs think people have right to attack police.
shareAce, among a few other posters are probably why I even stuck around moviechat. There's some well-written, articulate folks here with far more self-control than I do.
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