Why It Flopped


Why do you think this movie didn't do that well at the box office back in July of 1998 when it was released? I turned 11 shortly before the release and remember in the months leading up to the release it was a very hyped and promoted film, with the trailers and toy commercials constantly showing on the airwaves along with making-of specials, and I remember the Commando action figures for months were almost impossible to find. Yet when the movie finally saw it's release on July 10th it seemingly was DOA at the box office and quickly faded into obscurity, despite the promotions and it's A-list cast. It made only $54 million, which isn't very good considering it's sizable $40 million budget (still a fairly large budget even by today's standards).

I remember the Summer of 1998 was very competitive, besides this movie there was also Godzilla, Armageddon, Saving Private Ryan, Lethal Weapon 4, Mulan, etc. so perhaps it inevitably got lost in the shuffle and a lot of potential moviegoers simply overlooked it. It also could be the backlash for the violence and slightly dark tone, which could've put off a lot of parents who heard the reviews and decided not to take their kids to it, and it also came out during the wave of school shootings back in the late 90s, so perhaps a film featuring young kids in peril hit too close to home to real events at the time for some audiences. Do you think these along with other things were a factor in it not doing well at the box office during it's Summer 1998 run?

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@CyborgGoblin ...besides this movie there was also Godzilla, Armageddon, Saving Private Ryan, Lethal Weapon 4, Mulan, etc.
I think you answered your own question by mentioning Saving Private Ryan which, like Small Soldiers, was released in July 1998.

You've got two war movies out in the same month, and Ryan took all the oxygen out of the room.

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I know I'm late months later to reply with this, only just now I noticed.

SPR is a graphic and harrowing war film while Small Soldiers is something comical and fantastical with appeal to kids and early teens, so it seems bizarre the two would be pitted against each other when the former is very obviously not standard Summer movie fare.

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@CyborgGoblin You didn't tick the option to get an email when there's a reply to one of your posts? It's in your preferences. A lot easier than having to manually check if you got a reply.

Anyways, sure, kids would watch Small Soldiers because they couldn't watch SPR due to its rating.

But I think teens would've preferred to watch a graphic war movie rather than a cartoon version. "You haven't watched Ryan yet? What's the matter, is it too scary for you, you pussy?" etc.

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I don't have that enabled, no.

I'd say Small Soldiers is far more appealing to kids than SPR. SPR is a military film which probably appeals to young boys to an extent but Small Soldiers has sentient toys consisting of soldiers and monsters warring with each other, and the violence is at a cartoon level. Maybe to teens it might be too kiddy but I can see it being appealing to the 13 and under crowd.

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@CyborgGoblin ...but I can see it being appealing to the 13 and under crowd.
Well, that would be another reason why it flopped. Too limited in its appeal.

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I said it in my first post, but the trailers probably were too kiddy for the teen and adult crowd while the movie also looked too intense for younger children. So in a way the it couldn't find an audienee at the time of release.

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That's because audiences were stuck up back in 98 which is why this amazing film didn't get the credit it deserves.

I'm Blade brown, the Dopest, illest,hypest brotha, on the block!

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At least now it's finally gotten the proper recognition and respect it long deserves and should've gotten back then.

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I remembered another big movie in the Summer of 1998 was The X-Files movie, which came out a few weeks before Small Soldiers but definitely had some serious hype and anticipation. Another big movie during that very competitive Summer movie season and sadly Small Soldiers seemingly just got lost in the mix.

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Also looking back there's the advertising and merchandising as well, which I imagine had to be quite big for this movie. I remember the trailers and making-of specials on TV and the toys in the stores. I remember it wasn't until around Halloween time where I live the Commando figures finally started popping up after being so hard to find for months.

The movie's slightly sub-par box office performance was able to recoup the filming budget decently enough but I wonder if it also recouped the advertising and merchandising?

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Is it known how much this movie made from the VHS and DVD sales/rentals as well as cable viewings? I remember HBO and Cinemax showed this very frequently back during 1999 and 2000.

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Others in the thread have mentioned the marketing, but I think the title and premise were enough for people to think it was a family movie. Since it was rated PG-13, parents didn't know what to do. By the way, me and a friend just saw after having it seen many years ago. Despite seeing it twice (once as an adult), he still considers it a family movie just because he can't look pass the concept.

I remember the Summer of 1998 was very competitive, besides this movie there was also Godzilla, Armageddon, Saving Private Ryan, Lethal Weapon 4, Mulan, etc. so perhaps it inevitably got lost in the shuffle and a lot of potential moviegoers simply overlooked it.

Well, the only movies it couldn't defeat in its opening weekend were LETHAL WEAPON 4 and ARMAGEDDON. In the following weeks, even non-new releases defeated it.

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The marketing certainly could've given the movie something of an identity crisis and thus potential moviegoers didn't know what to make of it at the time. Was it a kids' film or more suited for an older audience? Funny thing is nowadays most family films are PG-13 and the rating wouldn't be a deterrant these days. The Summer of 1998 was very competitive so sadly I think this movie had the misfortune or being up against big movies like Armageddon and Lethal Weapon 4. In the subsequent weeks there was also Saving Private Ryan and Mulan. Possibly due to the marketing it had difficulty finding a demographic at the box office.

The political climate at the time could've hurt it too, don't forget it came out during the school shooting epidemic of the late 90s and when movies, music, video games, etc. came under fire for influencing real-life violence (which I've always found to be total BS and a scapegoat). Even though the movie is tongue-in-cheek and comical with it's violence, perhaps a movie depicting children and teens in danger was something that hit too close to home at the time for some audiences. It was much like how right after 9/11 and the Iraq war films dealing with war and terrorism weren't popular at the box office for a good while, just something that's an uncomfortable reminder of something real going on.

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