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Why does Roger hope his daughter's baby daddy is black?


I didn't catch the full movie (it was being shown on TV), but that part kind of rubbed me the wrong way. He never struck me as an anti-racial-mixer before.

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because he is racist

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That's unfortunate. Not a good quality in a "straight man" who is supposed to be more sympathetic to the audience.

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And yet I get the feeling that if a white character had said something like "I just hope he's not black" when referring to his daughter's baby's daddy, that would've gotten a much different and more noticeable reaction!

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Because people are petty, stupid, and form opinions based on things that don't matter. Jewish and Greek mothers always pressure their kids to marry Jewish or Greek spouses. Asians pressure their kidz to marry Asians. Whites, blacks, whoever, lots of people do it. They may not even be racist, but still want their kid to "stick with tbeir own kind." It's not rationale, but people do it all the time.

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You're right.
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You're right.
"All around me are familiar faces, worn out places..."
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Thanks. I needed a reference for the state of way too many minds on this planet.

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Stick with their own kind?LOL that's kinda Ironic giving that we're all the same kind. Which is the human kind.

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Try telling that to the cops and The American Judicial System.

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Because he's racist.

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Well the joke's on him! My girlfriend was black and I'm not!

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Roger isnt racist, he was cool with his daughter dating a blond guy with dimples in the first film. When he says "I hope he's black" I think he means to keep it old fashion, black united in his blood, nothing racial or wrong with that. Some whites, hispanics and others does the same.

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*Looks at the user's name and moves on.*

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He actually says so in the beginning. From the memorable quotes section for this movie:
[while the "Human Tank" is bearing down on them]
Roger Murtaugh: Is he black?
Martin Riggs: Too much armor on, I can't tell!
Roger Murtaugh: No, not him! The father of the baby!
Martin Riggs: ...Okay!
Roger Murtaugh: Oh, please let him be black!

"There is no escape, John!"

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Roger Murtaugh: No, not him! The father of the baby!
Martin Riggs: ...Okay!


I never understood that line. Was that supposed to be funny, saying OK after that? I remember wondering about that ever since I first saw this film as a kid.

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Rubs me the wrong way simply because it's out of character. Murtaugh already has white family. His name's Martin Riggs.


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Yeah I thought it wasn't something Murtaugh would say either. Sure he seemed like the type who was proud and comfortable about his own ethnicity but not the type who would care what colour his grandchild and son in law was.

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Roger is old-fashioned, and therefore against mixed race relations. He doesn't want any cream in the coffee, if you know what I mean.

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I think that line was written just to stir mild feelings of a racial nature without being overtly offensive. Not meant to be taken seriously. I always thought it was sort of funny he said that, if only a little. What I took from that is simply that Roger is proud of his black heritage. Nothing wrong with that. I think that if Roger's grandson had been part white, or some other race, he would have loved him just the same. An off the cuff remark. Nothing more than that.

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