Samuel Jackson's wrong approach


Seems to me that throughout the prequel trilogy, Mace Windu appears cynical, negative and even sometimes arrogant.

Even the expressions on his face can only be identified as non friendly.

I understand that the role was supposed to be the sceptical opinion of the council on Anakin and other matters but this acting from Jackson (which is often his natural) ends up being completely opposite to a Jedi's profile




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Jedi can come in many shapes and personalities. Some even eventually turn to the dark side altgether. I dont see the issue

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Look, a lifetime of fighting evil and being denied love doesn't tend to make people sweet, cheerful, and friendly as they get older!




“Seventy-seven courses and a regicide, never a wedding like it!

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His wrong approach consisted in accepting the role; the Windu character had obviously no other purpose than selling another puppet for merchandise, cast a famous star in it to attract the audiences and have a black token character for political correctness. Storywise it could haven been wiped out altogether and it wouldn´t have made any difference.

But he received good money, that´s for sure.

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You are SO wrong it hurts my brain - the moment of Anakin turning to dark side, THE most important moment of this movie wouldn't work without Windu.

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If his importance came down to the passive role of getting killed, anyone could have served for that affair - Ki-Adi-Mundi, to say one -.

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Again - so wrong, he showed Anakin that jedi and sith ain't no different, if jedi wills to kill whats the difference betweek them? Add to that that dark side promised to save Anakins love and you got a perfect reason to change to sith.
Also you can say that everybody could play everybody, yes sure, how is that in any way makes sense?

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so wrong, he showed Anakin that jedi and sith ain't no different, if jedi wills to kill whats the difference betweek them? Add to that that dark side promised to save Anakins love and you got a perfect reason to change to sith.


A lesson he probably didn´t need,as the Tuskens and Count Dooku would tell you if they could.

However you seem to confuse the subject; I was talking about the inanity of the Windu character, not about the reasons for Annakin´s turn, a matter which I don´t intend to discuss now... unless you force me to.


Also you can say that everybody could play everybody, yes sure, how is that in any way makes sense?


It makes perfect sense when there are several characters so dull, uninteresting and undifferentiated that they become expendable or interchangeable.

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The sand people and count dooku show the seeds of his eventual path, but Windu is the big catalyst. The entire time he doesn't trust Anakin, who feels he has to prove himself. He then turns Palpatine over to Mace, who tries to kill him. So Anakin has a character who is supposed to be evil actually playing a positive role in his life and trying to help him, while a character who is supposed to be good doesn't trust him and is trying to kill his friend. That is the role Mace Windu serves in Episode 3. Yes, they could have had other characters fill that role, they could have had other characters fill a lot of roles, and they also would have had to come up with some other purpose for Mace and another reason for him to die.

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Annakin chopped off the head from an already surrendered Dooku without much ado; I fail to recognize how watching Windu try to do the same with Dooku´s chief -which means responsibility for the whole war, countless deaths and involvement in the attempts to murder Padme - could have any upsetting potential, much less catalyze anything.

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Mace Windu, lol.

He was supposed to be this bad a$$ jedi. What we got instead was a forgettable non-figure, just standing there for 3 movies . Oh George...

I'm just on my way up to Clavius.

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The idea was that Windu was supposed to be this bad-assed Jedi, but the character was underwritten and boring... so Lucas hired an actor known for playing badasses and hoped he could make up for the failings in the script.

Lucas is known to be the worst actor's director alive, the only actors who ever give decent performances in his films are the old pros who can give a good performance without any help from the director - Alec Guiness, Christopher Lee, Ian McDiarmid, Frank Oz, that level of old pro. Lucas probably hoped that Jackson was in that category, but I don't think things turned out that way.

So I don't blame Jackson, any more than I blame little Jake Lloyd.




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the only actors who ever give decent performances in his films are the old pros who can give a good performance without any help from the director

how many other movies got such a dismal performance from an ensemble of award-winning actors?

"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok"

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cynical, negative and even sometimes arrogant

all which represent what the Jedi have become.

"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok"

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Well he nearly wiped out Palpatine, if it weren't for Anakin's surprise hand and/or arm-remover thrust.

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According to (what I remember as) canon material, Mace himself is not without his Dark Side temptations. He practices combat styles such as the Vaapaad, which is a fighting style using aggressive techniques. And we all know where aggression leads...

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All of which you mentioned was entirely intentional. Mace Windu was known for being very cautious and he was slow to trust people. He never even wanted Anakin to be on the council, but he was outvoted. But he unknowingly allowed himself to become arrogant and believed the Jedi were always right. Palpatine even used this fact to convince Anakin that the Jedi were trying to overthrow the senate. And even though WE know that was a lie, it does somewhat make sense. I think the Jedi in the prequels were kind of like the Roman praetorian guard, who were officially the protectors the senate but were also rumored to be the de facto rulers of the senate.
But the Jedi were pretty arrogant and very biased during the prequel era, that is precisely what allowed the Sith to remain hidden so easily within the senate, which led to their eventual downfall.
But according to Samuel L. Jackson, Mace Windu is cynical and distrustful, but also believes those traits are somewhat necessary, since he is willing to protect the republic and serve justice at all costs. Personally, I like Mace Windu as a character because of those traits, it brings a different view on the Jedi (though I mainly like him because he's elegant, always serious and intimidating).

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