Awful!!!


'Beloved' has to be the most boring film I have ever seen in my life.
What a waste of 3 hours (and it felt more like 10)
I really would've been more entertained just sitting doing nothing for that time, I hated all the characters especially 'Beloved' who at times was just disgusting.
My advice, unless you literally have nothing to do at all for a few hours, and really, really love the actors then avoid this at all costs
I haven't read the book, but it clearly wasn't a good idea to make a film out of

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It is obvious the movie is too deep and too symbolic for all to enjoy. Perhaps if you understand the trials of the women in Afghanistan this movie would make sense to you. In all cultures including ours here in the U.S the treatment of women has not always been pleasant. No one has mentioned it but perhaps the pain that is sometimes felt by women who for whatever reason have had an abortion is alike some of the feelings in this movie.

The movie is extremely well made, true to the wonderful book from which it is adapted (not alwways true of Hollywood).

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Uh...if you didn't like the movie then I suggest you don't watch it again. Simple. I personally thought it was a very good movie, it's true it was very long and not the most action packed and exciting movie ever. But it was fairly moving (to me anyways). In school you always read about slavery...but this gives it a visual and gives you something to think about. I mean come on, killing your own children so they don't have to go through what you did?? Oh..and did Denver go work for her mothers former owner thing? I missed some parts of the movie due to homework.

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No, Denver worked for a white man that didn't have a problem with black people but he wasn't a slave owner. But when Sethe saw the white man she did think it was Schoolteacher (the ex-slave owner.

I LOVED this movie the first time I saw it. I then read the novel and was able to understand the movie better. The movie and the novel are very deep and when watching and reading, one has to have an open mind. Its a story that you just can't look on the surface, you must use some form of your intellect to understand the meaning.

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I agree with the OP. This movie was awful. Beloved WAS disgusting, I had to stop eating breakfast because this movie was so gross. It was unrealistic as well. The last scene was just ridiculous with the ex slaves dressed to the nines at the market place, and the white people selling their wares had old rags on their heads! My parents and I decided to watch it thru to the end just for laughs. Oprah really messed up with this one.

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Unrealistic?!...you missed a major point of the movie.

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Well Sethe is based on Margaret Garner who kill her child bc she thought them being dead with the other 60 million + black people that died bc of slavery would be better than them living as slaves. It is a story about a moral war within this woman, it is a story about the emancipation of slaves, it is a story about motherhood. Come on people, it is almost sickening to read that adults don't understand this novel and film. Disgusting? You betcha! it is about slavery in the United States, one of the most disgusting, hideous, and immoral thing to ever to happen in the entire world. Im sorry but Toni Morrison's Beloved was ranked number one of best work of american fiction of the last 25 years by the new york times for a reason. The character Beloved seems weird and gross, bc she is a baby in adult form. It is hard to picture an adult doing these things bc you feel like they should be able to look after themselves. Beloved has never been motherered.

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Well said, Captain Flynn and many others. I know it's a more disgusting portrayal of slavery than say "Gone With the Wind" and how cute it was that little Prissy got slapped whenever she went hysterical. I know that's how some people would rather remember things, because it is not gross and icky, it's comic. But there is a population that is getting tired of how some want to make things pretty and easy to swallow, and want you to know what's behind you, so you pay more attention to what's ahead.

I know it's a work of fiction but there is not meant to be anything comfortable about Beloved either. Beloved is meant to disturb you and that lady played the hell out of that role.








sure it's ok 4 a gorilla, bt when I throw barrels @ an italian plumber they call it a hate crime

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I am not a stupid person. I understand what this movie was SUPPOSED to be about. Slavery. Someone please tell me, what do these things have to do with slavery- a bug covered ghost on the ground in front of a house, a pregnant ghost walking around naked, a ghost having sex with her living mothers boyfriend, a woman squatting down in her yard to pee at the sight of a bug covered ghost (yea yea I know that this was SUPPOSED to be symbolic of giving birth, but couldn't it have been done better?). This movie was just terrible.

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Scannon, this is not suppose to be insulting but I want to know how old you are? Have you read the Pulitzer winning novel this is based on? I get that you don't like this movie, but your animosity towards it is kind of startling. Jonathan Demme's interpretation of Toni Morrison's beautiful (words can't even describe) novel was very moving and inspiring to me. It is a haunting story about what American Slavery did to this one woman based on Margaret Garner. Toni Morrison's story lives in a lot of people. I think about it often. It is complex, rich and enthralling. When you say "i am not a stupid person", it just makes it seem like you are implying that anyone that enjoys this story is. Nobody called you stupid. This film was about slavery, you just happened not to like it. You did not get it in the sense that it did not inspire you. Lots of movies I understand but dont GET what inspires people to rave about it. We are human, so diffrent things move us. This story may it be in novel or film form means a lot to me, so when people call it awful and trivialize it I get really passionate.

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CaptainFlynn...I feel what you are saying... so much.

This book was moving to me as well and I have thought about it often. It seems wasteful when people slam it or the movie. I feel like they missed Seth's (Toni's) whole story. Not everything in life is plain to understand, pretty to look at, or comfortable to feel. This story can only be told in a nightmarish way. Her story struck me to the core. It's sickening to think about Seth's demons and how much damage slavery does and did do to one person (it makes you understand why she thought dead could almost be better, merciful.) She was haunted in life by the decisions she made and also haunted by the memories of her horrifying past that repeatedly killed her over and over again. She was in a mental prison. They all were.

If one doesn't want to watch it or doesn't like it because it's disturbing then that makes sense and that's completely understandable but I don't get people who just say, "It STINKS!" It doesn't.

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Hey Captain, let's go back and note that several posters in this thread have suggested that you have to be 'intelligent' to 'get' what this movie is about. I would say to those who posted such, "your idead of intelligence is laughable." Furthermore, it was not suggested that you have to be an idiot or stupid to like the movie. As for animosity, I don't see it. But, then again, when dealing with a conflicting opinion, that is the first conclusion to which one normally jumps. I understand you love it and you are passionate about it. However, for those of us who find the characters disgusting, we have a passion too. Your passion can be mistaken for anger just as easily as one who is simply trying to understand why you would consider this a good film. It was asked....what does this have to do with slavery? So, answer.

I happen to be of the opinion that this is one of the worst movies in cinematic history. And, yes, I do 'get' what this movie is about. The theme of a mother who would rather kill her own children, rather than to subject them to the horrors they would have no choice but to face is a haunting and intimate one. However, this movie (and the book, which I have read) fall so off the mark. There was no need for half the scenes in the movie, and seeing them alive, on film made them even worse for me. I don't understand why the story, the themes of which I believe to be extremely relevant, had to be told through such awful people.

I don't like this movie, but I am fine with knowing that there are those who do. As for me, I would never waste another moment of my life watching it. The three hours I already wasted were enough to make me post how much this movie sucks. It gives me some solace to know that I might save someone, anyone from wasting their time as well.

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Very boring.

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I read the book. Found out there was a cinematic adaptation and avoided it for three years until today. Didn't like the book much, and liked the movie even less. Just because something wins an award doesn't mean it's supposed to be liked by everyone with a brain. I don't like Catcher in the Rye but people swear by its genius...to each his own.

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Yeah. Just as you,


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Ohh I get it!

Just the desperate whining of an old fart's idiotic low life comment trying to 'wake up' an already default board. Okay!

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I will admit that the first time I saw this movie, I was confused and appalled. However, I only saw the last 1/3 of it first. This compelled me to find it online and watch it all the way through and then I immediately got it. I can understand why some would think it's awful because it seems so horrifying and over-the-top. But the truth is ... this is the truth. And the truth isn't always pretty or "realistic" in the way we view society today. However, things were very different back then.

I have first-hand experience of watching someone suffer horribly through their early life choices based on unfair circumstances. My great-grandmother (Big Mama) grew up in rural Mississippi in the early 1900s. Her struggle was not slavery, but it was being a black woman in those times with few choices. In a similar sentiment to The Color Purple, she was forced to marry a 30-year-old man when she was 15. She quickly had two children and had to succumb to abuse. Fearing for her life and realizing that her husband (my great grandfather) would not allow her to leave with the children, she ran for her life at around 18 years old. She moved north to Missouri and wasn't able to see her children again for about 7 years.

I would equate the Beloved character to my grandmother who for her entire life resented her mother for leaving her and tried to make her suffer through guilt. Even worse, my Big Mama was haunted by her decision - and when I say haunted, I meant HAUNTED.

I'm 32 now and when I was about 17 years old, I spend a lot of time at her house. Knowing nothing of her story then, I remembered constantly hearing the sound of kids playing around the house. It sounded like a playground. There were no young kids in the neighborhood but I would look around the house inside and out every time and no one was there.

After a while, my Big Mama would talk about "the kids" and how she left them and they were coming to get her. You could literally hear kids saying "Mama ... Mama!" It was terrifying for me. My Dad explained that Big Mama had been heavily into Voodoo in Mississippi and had the ability to conjure things. What she produced through her guilt was a "rememory" similar to Sethe's Beloved. Though her real kids were alive, the relationship was never repaired and her guilt produced these "ghost" kids ... AND WE COULD HEAR THEM.

So before people criticize the movie, it would be good to talk to people who lived in a time period that is different from today. We live in a light-hearted pop culture and couldn't possibly imagine what rural life was like in a time when neither women nor black people had rights. You'd be surprised by just how "realistic" this movie really is and how many people actually lived very similar lives to Sethe's or my Big Mama's everyday - and the guilt they felt for horrifying choices they were forced to make as a result of the HORROR that was inflicted upon them. I think the movie was very good and very real.

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Awesome post, s_bumpus!!! Enjoyed reading it.

And personally, the first time I saw the film, I was WAY too young to understand what was going on. Just a whole bunch of random, disturbing images. However, MUCH later on, I had the opportunity to watch it a few times over the years. Each time, I had a new understand of the story, and discovered new things each time. Reading the novel a few times helped as well. So, now I have an appreciation of the film from an aesthetic and intellectual perspective. And may I add, I get tired of hearing the word "deep." It's extremely overused. I thought it was thought-provoking and engaging. If you think that constitutes it being "deep," then fine, but at least find another word to use.

The biggest flaw of the film is that it requires (in a sense) the viewer to have read or to read the original novel. It's too obscure in some places, and a bit too extreme in others. Is it everyone's cup of tea? I certainly doubt it. But awful? Not at all.


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I REALLY didn't like this movie!!!!

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I am very glad I read the book beforehand. It's a difficult novel to adapt to film, but I think this was a good effort. The acting was powerful, especially Newton as Beloved, but because of the nature of Morrison's narrative style, a lot of the best parts are lost in the adaptation from page to screen.

It was a long film, but all the scenes were necessary, and many key scenes from the book, acting as sub-plot, did not appear in the film. I prefer to see Beloved as a symbol rather than a character. Her origin and character are supposed to be ambiguous, and yes the film may leave you feeling disgusted - that is its intention: to provoke a reaction.

I would recommend reading the book, perhaps you'll understand the significance of the more confusing parts of the film and enjoy it on a second viewing.

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