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Millie and Kate

posted 17 years ago by spork_all
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Did anyone else think that there was something going on between Millie and Kate? I mean, they were both in love with the guy but they seemed to be rather close. Although I doubt the original author thought they were.

[–] gonbaoji 17 years ago

Absolutely not.

[–] kelly-527 17 years ago

Keep in mind that in years past it was not unusual for women to hold hands while doing such mundane things as shopping or sleep in the same bed with no homoerotic overtones. My mother was a young girl in the thirties and forties and commented on it. It hasn't been since the latter part of the 20th century that EVERY TINY THING has to have a sexual reference attached. Occasionally it can be accurate to funny, but it gets a little ingenious and old after a while.

Their behavior was pretty appropriate to the era.

[–] davidtraversa-1 16 years ago

David Traversa
Kelly, you should read Colette's literature of the time to learn what two women could do together... Nobody can be that naive!!

[–] threeoranges 17 years ago

Definitely. Why else that line "I love you... both of you"?

[–] ivana2804 17 years ago

Despite what you may think, the word "love" does not always have sexual overtones.

[–] threeoranges 17 years ago

So you're saying that she didn't love the man in a sexual way either?

[–] CharmedfanSDJC 17 years ago

Seriously, what does sex have to do with loving someone? I mean in general. I love my brother but it's not sexual. I love my best friend very much but I don't wanna screw her either. I really don't think the relationship between Milly and Kate had anything to do with attraction in a physical way. Especially if you read the book.

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[–] Eumenides_0 15 years ago

Despite what you may think, the word "love" does not always have sexual overtones.

E. M. Forster explores this matter quite well in Aspects of the Novel. He notes that the word 'love' in the English language is burdened with too many meanings, from sexual love to mere affection between two friends.

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[–] mrs_blue_velvet 16 years ago

Not exactly and I didn't grasp any spark between the two which would translate into a relationship in the near future. Also the term "love" does not always have such a sexual meaning. I love my family but it is by no means sexual.

[–] brittyhorror 15 years ago

I know what you mean, but I feel that they were just close in that sisterly way...I love the scene where Kate finds out she's ill and goes to Millie's room, and Millie just senses something is wrong and tries to comfort her. It's a testament to how generally kind and loving Millie was, and I felt that it was one of those things that you often see two sisters doing...comforting the other if they're afraid of something, etc.

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[–] fugazzi49 15 years ago

Not at all.Neither the film nor the book suggests anything but the type of romanticized,idealized friendship common in the Edwardian Era.However,what does more than suggest this is the dvd box cover,which poses the three with Milly's arms entwined with Kate's and her eyes entirely on Kate to the virtual exclusion of Densher.I imagine this was purposely done to tittilate potential moviegoers but is entirely misleading.

[–] Cine-Verite 12 years ago

Ancient Greeks identified and named 4 basic types of love (with attendant sub-categories):

Agape - unselfish love for another w/o sexual implication; the love of God for mankind; unconditional

Philia - friendship; affinity; brotherly love

Storge - parental love; familial love; siblings;

Eros - physical, sensual love

While none of the four types of love are listed in the Christian bible as such, Scripture is rife with examples of each.

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[–] SUNNYandSTORMY 10 years ago

NO. NO. NO.