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Can We Finally Admit This Is a Bad Movie?


Besides the fact that the plot really points out the self-hating conundrum that is liberal America - if you don't help the Iraqi minorities you're bad, if you do help them you're bad - this movie is just so poorly executed on so many levels. The leaping from gigantic fireballs. The C4 on the football. Jumping out of the car and not getting killed by the mine. The pretentious camera trickery with the pointless blurry scenes and 'looking up at the fast-moving sky' nonsense.

Even the characters and speeches are ridiculous. The Iraqi lecturing us on how America made Michael Jackson turn himself white (?), Nora Dunn's overacting, the standard, ignorant Hollywood portrayal of a redneck, and on and on.

Why did we pretend this movie was any good, anyway?

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This movie is a good movie at an entertainment level,as a realistic war movie portraying the military..HELL NO..its so unrealistic and their gear is so off :(
And it makes the military look like greedy dirtbags if they get the chance,now what is this,A Battalion CO,a Company CO ,and a Pfc just takes off,to get some gold,it sound so stupid from a military standpoint that its laughable ,but as a comedy its good...(all the inconsistencies notwithstanding)

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this is a treasure hunting adventure movie, that just happens to be set in post-desert storm Iraq, giving it the opportunity to be a bit more intelligent than the average treasure hunting movie. The fact that we can all have discussions here about what the movie is saying about america and our Iraq war policy, to me is an indication that this IS a good movie. It is not just mindless entertainment, even though it is entertaining.

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Besides the fact that the plot really points out the self-hating conundrum that is liberal America - if you don't help the Iraqi minorities you're bad, if you do help them you're bad -


I agree with you the movie shows you are bad no matter that you do, because in war there are oftentimes no perfect choices. But I do not agree that the movie couches this in a liberal viewpoint.

And that the movie shows that there are oftentimes no perfect choices in war is what makes it a great movie, not a bad one.

I agree with you that there are plenty of very bad, liberal propaganda anti-war movies about the second War on Iraq, of which the main purpose of those movies is to bash Bush and what he stood for (and way moreso than just in regards to the War on Iraq)...but Three Kings isn't one of them. Three Kings is the exception to the rule. That's why it's one of the few movies about either of the Wars on Iraq that isn't a bad one.

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Just to address the main points of this -

"Besides the fact that the plot really points out the self-hating conundrum that is liberal America - if you don't help the Iraqi minorities you're bad, if you do help them you're bad -"

Good Lord, you guys never let up, do you? Everything's a big, vast, huge, really big liberal conspiracy intended to humiliate you, the troops, and America. You remind of some people I knew in high school, except they were French and their obsession was George Bush and the United States, not liberals. Maybe you're not so different from the people you whine about so much.

"But I am curious, in a sort of clinical way, as to the root of your delusion. What, exactly, do you find disgraceful about the first Gulf War? The fact that our ally was invaded and we went to their aid?"

As mentioned by another poster, the critique was of the way George Bush Sr. deliberately encouraged the Shi'a towards their own suicide and then refused to support them - pretty sick, and spot on. I'm sorry, America can and does *beep* people in that way, all the time. If you don't like it, neither do I, but you might want to wake up and smell the shyte instead of pretending it's peanut butter.


Denny Crane.

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As for this movie in general; were we watching the same flick? After everything I'd heard about it, I expected it to be some kind of prequel to Syriana.

I was wrong - it's a good action flick, mixing adventure and political commentary in exactly the right doses. What the hell was there not to like? The soldiers in the movie were heroes who are shown saving Iraqi lives, you'd think conservatives would be happy about that. Yeah, they start out as gold hunters, but that's no different from any treasure hunt movie (again as another poster already pointed out) in which the main characters start out looking for money and adrenalin and end up fighting for something nobler.

(Hell, Rick O'Connell in "The Mummy" and the French Foreign Legion were portrayed doing the exact same thing. Did the French Foreign Legion scream bloody murder? No - because 1) it understood this was just a movie, 2) it understood that the filmmakers weren't personally out to get them, 3) it's OK with being portrayed in the media as something other than an Eagle Scout troop to be worshiped by the public without question).

The movie also portrayed the Republican Guard for the sadistic bastards that they were, and showed them getting their just desserts first at the hands of American soldiers, then at the hands of American soldiers leading a popular uprising. What, exactly, was wrong with any of that? The fact that they added in a few elements that were a little too real-life for the OP (like the actual political context)?


Denny Crane.

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American did turn Micheal Jackson White, American needs to take credit for that

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This movie is awesome, so no.

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It's got good points to make, but yeah, I don't like it. Ugly, unappealing, offputting movie.

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I found it pretty boring and preachy IMHO,

But My tastes in movies are pretty bad so?

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This op made such a foolish statement 6 years ago, I wonder if he's gotten any smarter?

Limit of the Willing Suspension of Disbelief: directly proportional to its awesomeness.

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Nah. I think it's Russell's best and most interesting film, with Silver Linings Playbook close behind.

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