Hilarious.
Wouldn't get away with it these days. He'd be canceled pronto. BLM would be crying like babies. I'm surprised he hasn't been forced to apologise and beg for forgiveness.
Almost as hilarious as Curse of the Bloody Voodoo Sock Puppet.
What was that about anyway? Was that meant to imply that "Death" just acclimates to everyone around him?
sharePretty sure that's it. The idea that Death speaks all languages (including accents and dialects) so that he sounds "normal" to whoever he is speaking with.
shareUnless he's trying to assimilate into Bill's family - then he comes across as a socially awkward idiot. Not very consistent.
shareI didn't find it inconsistent at all. Things like language and dialect -- basic, surface level communication -- he just automatically knows. But human behavior, emotion, the nuance of connecting on a gut level, that's something he simply can't grasp easily, and no wonder, since he's an ageless immortal force of nature, and not a weak, limited, mortal physical being. His perspective is too far removed from humanity to understand how human beings think, act, and relate to each other, even though he could know every technical rule of grammar and vowel pronunciation like a supercomputer.
Maybe the makers of this movie didn't correctly assess the way in which the immortal, universal force of nature would and would not connect with powerless mortals who have an entirely different perception of and knowledge about the universe, but I understand completely the difference in these two types of beings they were trying to convey to the audience, and how that difference would lead to fundamental inability of these different types of beings to understand each other. One thing is a knowledge of facts, rules, and guidelines; the other is a knowledge of unpredictable human behavior and an instinctive feel for how people behave.
It's very much like the difference between book smarts, and street smarts.
But that's my point. When he initially takes over the body, Death does NOT understand language and dialect very well.
shareHe understood language and dialect just fine. I don't recall any scene, when first meeting Bill and his family, where Joe had problems with language, just with manners, etiquette, social customs etc. If he appeared hesitant and at a loss for words at first, that looks to me like it's because he doesn't quite understand what to say, not because he has any problem with how to say it. He had to figure out how this strange human interaction thing worked, but he understood the language just fine.
shareMr Death didn't have any problems with 'WHAT TO SAY' when speaking Creole with the old lady.
As I said - inconsistent.
Are you actually trying not to understand this?
By the time he interacted with the Jamaican woman, he had been staying in Bill Parrish's penthouse for days or possibly even weeks. When he seemed confused as he met Bill's family, it was literally the first time ever that he'd interacted with a human family, as a human himself. And you'll note, prior to that moment, when he met with Bill in the library, there absolutely no hesitation or confusion or uncertainty whatsoever in his speech when he told Bill how things were going to be. In fact he was clear, focused, and decisive, and quickly shut down Bill's objections. No confusion in either mannerisms or language.
So you are attempting to make an equivalence between Death's very first human-to-human encounter, as he was taking in a completely new and totally unprecedented experience, unlike anything he'd ever gone through before, and his demeanor at some unspecified time -- but at least several days later -- after he'd been living with Bill's family and servants, and learning how humans behave around each other and talk with each other.
Yeah, he had no problem communicating with the old Jamaican lady, because he'd gotten human behavior mostly figured out by that point. Why wouldn't he? He's an immortal, elemental force of nature that is doubtless more intelligent than any mere mortal. I really don't see how you figure this should be a problem for him.
He was still talking like an idiot after the old lady.
The voice you mention in Bill's head in the library was his own (Hopkin's) for some reason only the Director knows. Not from Pitt's body.
Do you realize you are making no sense whatsoever. Yes, the voice you heard before Death stepped out from behind the bookcase was Bill's (actor Anthony Hopkins). It's still Death doing the talking. The director probably made it that way to show that Death is a supernatural entity capable of more or less anything. Mimicking Bill's voice would be a snap, or, making Bill hear his own voice in his head.
And you're being evasive. I hate it when people do that. That's what people do when they know they're on the wrong track, but they're not big enough to concede a point. Not all the talking Death did in the library was from behind the bookcase. He still said plenty after he stepped out into Bill's view, and every word of it was clear, articulate, and 100% grammatically correct. He was not having any problem expressing himself through human language.
Get it through your head: this is Death, who is responsible (in this movie) for taking every individual on earth when it's their time. The way he automatically moves into Jamaican patois with the old lady is clearly, unmistakably meant to signify he understands all human languages, and if he wishes to appear to anyone before he takes them, he can speak to them in their own language, as if he were a native speaker of it. The awkwardness in his demeanor is also clearly meant to convey to the audience that as a aeons-old immortal being, human interaction is strange to him, and he has to learn how it works, which he manages to do very quickly. He still remains at least a bit stiff and awkward though, because he's not human! Human manners don't come naturally to him.
Honestly, I don't know how you managed to misunderstand all this, but you certainly seemed to have worked real hard at it.
YOU'RE being evasive. I hate it when people do that too. But I DO agree with you that, that's what people do when they know they're on the wrong track, but they're not big enough to concede a point :P
shareTrying to flip that accusation around on me is more evasion. You said Joe appears confused and unable to speak clearly, and as evidence, you cite Joe's demeanor when he is introduced to Quince, Allison, and Drew, because of how tongue-tied he appears. I point out that no, that's not because he doesn't speak well, it's because he's having a new and, for him, unprecedented experience, and we know his command of language is not faulty, because in the scene immediately before this, we see him speak with Bill, and there is absolutely nothing in the world wrong with his ability to express himself clearly and articulately in the English language, both when he uses Bill's voice, and when he used the voice that goes along with the body he took.
Now, the honest thing to do would be to say, "oh, you know what? That's true. You're right. He does speak without any trouble at all in that scene. I guess I hadn't considered that."
The evasive thing to do -- and what you did -- is to ignore evidence that contradicts your argument, even when it's pointed out to you, and even when are asked direct questions about it. And then to deflect playing to the gallery: the ":P." That's another kind of evasion.
Just have the manhood to admit you hadn't considered that social awkwardness, and command of language and dialect are two entirely different things. Because they are.
You're sooooooo easy to wind up man LOL
I'll put you out of your misery and stop posting on this thread. You bore me now, and I don't even read all of your posts.
My statement stands tho - INCONSISTENT!
I wouldn't waste my time arguing with "film boy." He's contradicting himself, and seems intent on naysaying whatever you say. Your point makes a lot of sense. Death seems to grasp language and communication instantly, but it takes him awhile to understand emotion and nuance.
shareYeah, I've encountered the type before: they will turn willfully obtuse rather than ever admit they are wrong.
I hadn't intended to reply any further, as it's an obvious waste of time, trying to pin people like that down and get an honest answer is lying trying to nail jello to a wall.
LOL. From some reason this scene just came up on my youtube feed.
It's horrific 😂 Some really terrible acting by Pitt! Really wish I hadn't seen this...